Redskins 2011 Draft = Big Success

[Hail to the Redskins]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Since you called me out, Mr. Hail, go back to your original post and find where you talked about "rookie expectations" What you said was :

"The biggest [positive] of all is that our 2011 draft is looking like one of the team's All-Time Best".

Then you go on to rave about individual players - - even ones who have not yet seen a minute of actual playing time on Sundays.

Since you asked, let me tell you about 5th round safeties who make a huge number of tackles in their first game:

1. That means the DL and the LBs aren't making nearly as many as they should.

2. It's one game; that's all it is. It is a better indicator that he might actually become a starter one of these days on a regular basis than exhibition game stats but there are lots of one-game wonders.

By the way, did you happen to take the time to Google "Clint Longley" as I suggested and see his "one-game wonder stats"? He would surely have gotten an "A+" as a signee after that game based on your grading system. His final grade for his career would have to be a D- at best.

Hankerson played well in two games, However, if you have to resort to saying he looked better than D.Thomas and M. Kelly to make your argument that he is an "A" graded pick, you are stretching more than a little bit. Thomas was a stiff; Kelly never played enough - - due to injury - - to be worth more than a used Kleenex. So, if Hankerson gets an "A" from you for being better than a stiff or a used Kleenex, - - you are entitled to your euphoria.

Sadly, Hightower is injured and his contract is up so he may not be back to compete with Helu for the starting RB slot next year.

What I tried to do originally was to point out that your grades were inflated by an awful lot. BTW, several other posters said the same thing; one wished you were handing out grades when he was in school. But now you have changed what you said in order to vent on the fact that most folks thought your original posting was over the top. That's fine; US Senators revise and amend their remarks all the time - - and we know how truthful and insightful they are on every issue.

I am not trashing your opinion; I am saying - - without any apology - - that your grades reflect a sense of "premature excellence".

Much like a politician, you have selected hearing/reading skills to suit your agenda that is VERY largely based around your narcissism.

It is ABUNDANTLY clear that you are VERY fond of yourself and your opinions. Any opinion that differs from yours must come from a simple, premature mind.

For you to disagree that the 2011 draft hasn't already proven to be the best in years once again, BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE SHOWN THUSFAR AND ALSO BASED ON THEIR DRAFT POSITION (as I have mentioned three times now), or that Helu isn't that great... then I think there are people that would like you are a little slow and oblivious... but guess what... most people wouldn't try and make you sound dim-witted.

So you disagree on Helu, Hankerson, Jenkins, etc. and that's fine. But I've seen them all play and in my childish, delusional opinion (not based on 8 seasons of 16 games started in the NFL, I realize), they are all going to be regular starters in the NFL. In my opinion, those three I mentioned are going to be VERY GOOD starters.

You COULD have a "mature" response... i.e. "In my opinion, the guys in the 2011 draft..." instead of telling me to look up Clint Longley, Babe Laufenburg, Timothy Smith, Brian Bosworth or any other name from history to just try and somehow prove a) that I don't have the plethora of knowledge and expreience as you and b) that my opinion to be an inferior one... To ME... THAT is "immature" and very condescending.

For you to use words like "to make your argument" is the exact reason I cannot stand reading your posts. This thread was never meant to be an "argument." I stated my opinion and clearly ended it with "what do you think?"

You come back with a post clearly intended to make me sound small-minded and then I was put into a position in which I needed to clarify to you what I based my opinion on.

When I "argued" that Hankerson is clearly better than Thomas or Kelly, I was saying that I have seen the 3 of them play... and that Hankerson, as a 3rd Round Pick, will have a much better career as receiver than either of those 2nd Round Picks. This is based on what I have seen with my own eyeballs (how he runs routes, moves his body in space and around a defender), not what I googled about Anthony Allen (I'm sure you, the Super Guru Curmudgeon can figure that one out, right?).

Look, I guess my biggest mistake was not being more clear with how I finished the original post. I assume now that I should've ended with, "What do you guys think about the 2011 draft?" ... I understand now that you read it as, "How idiotic do you think I am?"

Respond once again all you wish, trying to condescend and ridicule me and my posts, but to end all of this... I will be the adult and say "Let's just agree to disagree" and move on.



Hail to the Redskins! It felt great to feel a win again yesterday!