Around the NFL Week 12

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

LOL. Are you serious? I hate it for any "Franchise QB" that comes here (draft/FA) because they'll never live up to you fan's expectations. Dude is a top 5 QB and we still got people saying "He's not worth the #1 spot"......


He played a whopping 13 games the first two season, and was tearing it up his 2nd year when he got injured. A 6 TD to 1 INT ratio with a 91.3 rating. So you expected him to have a great rookie year? Did Manning? Nope. Brady? Didn't even play. Aaron Rodgers? Guys he had a 39.8 rating!!!

The kid is worth the #1 spot he was selected at. Give the guy a few more years before you start bashing a top 5 QB. Thanks in advance.

no argument with most of what you're saying, except this... he's not yet a top 5 qb. Brady, Rodgers, Manning (Both of 'em), Brees, Roethlisberger off the top of my head. I think he's in the "has potential to be great" group: Cam, Stafford, Ryan, Bradford. And those are all top picks... so his performance is so far commensurate with those drafted in equivalent position to his in the recent past.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

no argument with most of what you're saying, except this... he's not yet a top 5 qb. Brady, Rodgers, Manning (Both of 'em), Brees, Roethlisberger off the top of my head. I think he's in the "has potential to be great" group: Cam, Stafford, Ryan, Bradford. And those are all top picks... so his performance is so far commensurate with those drafted in equivalent position to his in the recent past.

I didn't make a claim he's better than any of those guys. I said he was a top 5 QB and the stats back that statement up. As of THIS year, he is a top 5 QB stat wise. Now if you want to argue Big Ben, Cutler or whoever is better, than that's something else.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I didn't make a claim he's better than any of those guys. I said he was a top 5 QB and the stats back that statement up. As of THIS year, he is a top 5 QB stat wise. Now if you want to argue Big Ben, Cutler or whoever is better, than that's something else.

I think making a claim of "Top 5" implies a pretty clear valuation of a player as compared to his counterparts. I can name 10 qb's I'd rather have... and none of which benefit from playing in a dome and having the best receiver in the league. So to me.. not top 5. Still, could happen down the line.


For the record, here's my Top 10 for 2011:

1) Rodgers

2) Brady

3) Brees

4) Roethlisberger

5) Cutler

6) Eli

7) Vick

8) Rodgers throwing left handed

9) Romo

10) Schaub

11) John Beck