2012 redskins

[Chico23231]

Mike Shanahan says fixing Washington Redskins harder than thought - ESPN

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Mike Shanahan says fixing Washington Redskins harder than thought - ESPN

Just as many have been saying all along, the cupboard was pretty bare when MS took over.

[Hog1]

Well.....since there are 3 teams that have given him his....."walking Papers"....recently and currently 29 other teams that have expressed...No interest and several of those need a competent QB, it looks bad for DM.
I actually watched a starting NFL QB last night.."playing" that was coaching HS football a few weeks ago....but yet No call to DM....how can that be?
Actually, barring divine intervention, it appears DM's NFL ship has sailed. OR at least it appears that the collective coaching staffs of 32 NFL teams think so.
CFL???

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Well.....since there are 3 teams that have given him his....."walking Papers"....recently and currently 29 other teams that have expressed...No interest and several of those need a competent QB, it looks bad for DM.
I actually watched a starting NFL QB last night.."playing" that was coaching HS football a few weeks ago....but yet No call to DM....how can that be?
Actually, barring divine intervention, it appears DM's NFL ship has sailed. OR at least it appears that the collective coaching staffs of 32 NFL teams think so.
CFL???

In some cases perception is everything in the NFL. Lets take Carson Palmer for example. A player who has lived off of perception his entire career. He's 50-55 as a starter, in the last 7 years he's thrown for 150 TD's, 22, 694 yards and 100 INT's and only 2 playoff appearances both resulting in losses. DM5 in the same time-span has thrown for 22, 899 yards, 143 TD's, 56 INT's and has a 9 and 7 playoff record. The only difference is Carson was given yet another chance, garnered 2 1st round picks for doing absolutely nothing and all while accounting for 35 interceptions in less than 2 seasons of play. It's sickening that he can land a starting job but DM5 can't.

[MTK]

McNabb is washed up.


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[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

McNabb is washed up.


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Shannahan is washed up. Has been for over a decade.

[Pigskins]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

Shannahan is washed up. Has been for over a decade.

It's hard for a coach to be washed up IMO, however mike def is not, we will continue to get better with him as HC

[SkinItup]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

Shannahan is washed up. Has been for over a decade.

Hardly, its just his ego is too big. He won super bowls with a great qb. Since then he thinks he can turn any qb into a great one but he hasn't. Since that time the qb has become more important.

Shanny needs at least an above average qb. The scheme Shanny started still works just look at Houston's offense the past few years. its pretty close in style. Schaub is a solid starting qb and has put up great numbers in the scheme.

[redskin29633]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

McNabb is washed up.


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Totally! He was finished when he arrived in DC.

2012 NFL Free Agent alternatives:

Top Quarterbacks

Drew Brees (NO) - You must be playing Madden if you think you can lure him to help revive your struggling Redskins or Dolphins franchise-this Saint is off limits and fully locked into Who Dat nation for the rest of his career.

Matt Flynn (GB) - As far as realistic, long-term options go, Matt Flynn may be the most pursued man. In his lone regular season appearance, he moved the Packers offense up and down the field in a national game, and almost knocked off a Patriots team in their house. He lacks the ideal tools, but plenty of quarterbacks have done more with less. Flynn has been taught by and learned from the best in Green Bay and will be ready to see if his career holds more than a clipboard.

Alex Smith (SF) - Through the early portion of the season, the Niners have slowly opened up more of their offense for Alex Smith who has done nothing but make smart decisions. He's more efficient than productive, but another season or two under Harbaugh could really help him turn his career around completely. His return to San Francisco will rely upon his sustained success, improvement, and their confidence in second-rounder Colin Kaepernick.

Kyle Orton (DEN) - Orton is inconsistent and about as middle-of-the-road as they come at quarterback. He can spin the ball well, but doesn't make the quickest decisions-and sometimes not the best. He's not a quarterback that will truly impress anyone as a starter, but is comfortably one of the 32 best this league has to offer. The Broncos probably won't want him back for another round of mediocrity, but he's the type of player that will play himself into the starting lineup with a younger prospect consistently vying for his position.

Jason Campbell (OAK) - Campbell has been fairly efficient as the quarterback for the Raiders. With the Raiders finally appearing to turn the corner, they may look to retain Campbell's services on a short term deal as they continue to improve the rest of the roster and build a hard-nosed, winning environment. Unlike some of the other quarterbacks in this class, Campbell's greatest hindrance is not his skillset, but rather his confidence and vision in determining when to push the ball down the field.



Donovan McNabb (MIN) - McNabb's best years are behind him; and he's probably destined to play out the rest of his career as a back-up or a starter amongst the league's bottomfeeders. One will prolong his stay in the NFL, while the other will cut it short. One thing appears clear though. The Vikings have not had the success they anticipated coming into the year and are likely to turn to Ponder by the start of next year at the very latest. More realistically, McNabb will be riding the bench after the team's bye week.

The Rest:

Chris Redman (ATL)
Derek Anderson (CAR)
Shaun Hill (DET)
Drew Stanton (DET)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
David Garrard (FA)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Chad Henne (MIA)
Sage Rosenfels (MIA)
David Carr (NYG)
Mark Brunell (NYJ)
Kevin O'Connell (NYJ)
Kyle Boller (OAK)
Vince Young (PHI)
Charlie Batch (PIT)
Dennis Dixon (PIT)
Byron Leftwich (PIT)
Charlie Whitehurst (SEA)
A.J. Feeley (STL)
Josh Johnson (TB)
Rex Grossman (WAS)
Richard Bartel (ARZ) - Restricted
Max Hall (ARZ) - Exclusive Rights
Tyler Palko (KC) - Restricted
Brian Hoyer (NE) - Restricted
Chase Daniel (NO) - Restricted

[Hog1]

I actually commend your loyalty to DM...
and for the record, I would never have offered up what they did for CP. AND for the record once I recovered from having a dreaded Eagle on the B&G, I was very excited having McNabb on the Skins and REALLY regret it not working out (but that's another story).
However, I must say that there are things that we as fans are not privy to that NFL types know about DM other than the obvious to keep every team avoiding him like the plague. I wish him luck but I do not believe there is some type of conspiracy associated with McNabb. I think NFL coaches just think the dude is done.....

[Hog1]

......insert Patrick Ramsey

[redsk1]

Just a random draft thought. I know it'll be offensive heavy but i believe it might be the steal of the draft if Jayron Hosley CB VA Tech goes in the 2nd round. Big time playmaker w/ great coverage skills. He's mocked to go in the second. We need a QB and offense, but we also need a CB.

[GTripp0012]

Matt Flynn is the suckers' pick. Chad Henne is just a much better player at the same age.

Garrard and Leftwich still have it, if we need a backup of quality. Obviously Leftwich doesn't have health.

[GTripp0012]

Brian Hoyer and Chase Daniel would be interesting, young pickups.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Brian Hoyer and Chase Daniel would be interesting, young pickups.

I'd take Chase Daniel we know what he can do and is well coached.