Patrick Ramsey's Future

TigersPawSkins · 06-01-2005, 08:43 AM

I think that ramsey will have a good year and then either be traded will a #1 draft pick as compensation or take the #2 spot here in washington. It is a raw deal that ramsey has gotten since coming to the nfl but you cant go back and change that. campbell will have the good fortune to have some very good coaches grooming him for the future. With his current abilities further enhanced by being here, it looks like he will be a excellent qb. He is a very good match for the system here. I really like ramsey and would hate to see him go. But we all do want the best man in there to get the wins. Ideally I would love to have campbell as starting qb with ramsey as #2. Not sure how I feel about brunell staying. I like him very much and feel he brings alot of intangibles to the table. But I dont think we should be paying him so much money for intangibles.

gortiz · 06-01-2005, 08:54 AM

We are are in a win-win because we really get to see what Patrick has in him this year. Gibbs has made it PAINFULLY clear he has no trust in Ramsey. Giving him the reins to the offense this year doesn't mean anything. Gibbs is not a Ramsey guy. If Pat shows up awesome, if he doesn't we got Campbell to look forward too, even though, it is WAAAAAAAAAY to early to get excited about Campbell.

Ramsey will have 21 TD's and 12 picks this year, we go 9-7 and get a wildcard, and then, we will have a mother of a QB controversy in July of 06!!!

Schneed10 · 06-01-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gortiz

even though, it is WAAAAAAAAAY to early to get excited about Campbell.

This is a key point. As fans, we have a tendency to get caught up in excitement and hype that we hear on our players. We hear from Pro Football Weekly's whispers that scouts are raving about Jason Campbell in Redskins practices, saying he can really throw the ball. I think that's nice to get excited about, but there was never any doubt that Campbell can deliver the ball, we knew that from the moment we drafted him. The big question is can the guy master the mental intricacies of the NFL and run Gibbs' offense. The knocks on Campbell were for his intelligence, and it's important to keep that in mind. Hopefully he develops himself in that aspect and proves that he can do it. But I like to keep myself grounded; Patrick Ramsey is still the unquestioned QB of this team until Campbell proves otherwise, and nobody knows if he will.

djnemo65 · 06-01-2005, 09:35 AM

Although I thought the Campbell pick was, at least at the time, inscrutable, I think I've come to understand that surely part of what's going on involves Joe attempting to light a fire under Ramsey, as I think Jansen phrased it during the draft. I'm sure they looked carefully at the San Diego situtation in which Brees found himself in a much less secure position - basically a four game final evaluation - and responded like a champion. Now no one can no for sure what role Rivers played in Brees's metamorphoses from second round bust to franchise starter, but we do know this; great qb's respond to pressure by playing great.

Look, Ramsey's gotta step up already, no more development. He's been in the league long enough that it's now time to perform; the expectations are the same for Joey Harrington and David Carr this year. If he really is the great player we all seem to think he is, he'll respond to Campbell's presence by winning. If he doesn't, then he probably didn't have what it takes anyway. If he does get it together this year like I believe he can, and this is in answer to the question, I think he'll stay in Washington for a long time. Campbell will be a bonus, much like Rivers. If Ramsey continues to move sideways he's gone in two years and its on to the next guy.

Either way, the Campbell pick is starting to look better to me because it accelerates the Ramsey evaluation process.

skinsguy · 06-01-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gortiz

Gibbs has made it PAINFULLY clear he has no trust in Ramsey.

I dunno about that. I mean, for a coach not to trust his Quarterback, he sure was quick about giving Ramsey the starting job for this season - even before last season was over with. I say Gibbs does trust Ramsey - I think Gibbs' trust in Brunell is probably in question considering the acquition of Jason Campbell.

Then again, MB might prove us all wrong and go back to his old ways. Wow...a three way QB conflict! Wow... :headbange

06-01-2005, 09:35 AM	#4
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future Although I thought the Campbell pick was, at least at the time, inscrutable, I think I've come to understand that surely part of what's going on involves Joe attempting to light a fire under Ramsey, as I think Jansen phrased it during the draft. I'm sure they looked carefully at the San Diego situtation in which Brees found himself in a much less secure position - basically a four game final evaluation - and responded like a champion. Now no one can no for sure what role Rivers played in Brees's metamorphoses from second round bust to franchise starter, but we do know this; great qb's respond to pressure by playing great. Look, Ramsey's gotta step up already, no more development. He's been in the league long enough that it's now time to perform; the expectations are the same for Joey Harrington and David Carr this year. If he really is the great player we all seem to think he is, he'll respond to Campbell's presence by winning. If he doesn't, then he probably didn't have what it takes anyway. If he does get it together this year like I believe he can, and this is in answer to the question, I think he'll stay in Washington for a long time. Campbell will be a bonus, much like Rivers. If Ramsey continues to move sideways he's gone in two years and its on to the next guy. Either way, the Campbell pick is starting to look better to me because it accelerates the Ramsey evaluation process.

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06-01-2005, 08:43 AM	#1
TigersPawSkins Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northern Va. about 5-10 minutes from redskins park Age: 57 Posts: 11	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future I think that ramsey will have a good year and then either be traded will a #1 draft pick as compensation or take the #2 spot here in washington. It is a raw deal that ramsey has gotten since coming to the nfl but you cant go back and change that. campbell will have the good fortune to have some very good coaches grooming him for the future. With his current abilities further enhanced by being here, it looks like he will be a excellent qb. He is a very good match for the system here. I really like ramsey and would hate to see him go. But we all do want the best man in there to get the wins. Ideally I would love to have campbell as starting qb with ramsey as #2. Not sure how I feel about brunell staying. I like him very much and feel he brings alot of intangibles to the table. But I dont think we should be paying him so much money for intangibles. __________________ believe in your dreams, but live in reality

06-01-2005, 08:54 AM	#2
gortiz Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 498	Re: Patrick Ramsey's Future We are are in a win-win because we really get to see what Patrick has in him this year. Gibbs has made it PAINFULLY clear he has no trust in Ramsey. Giving him the reins to the offense this year doesn't mean anything. Gibbs is not a Ramsey guy. If Pat shows up awesome, if he doesn't we got Campbell to look forward too, even though, it is WAAAAAAAAAY to early to get excited about Campbell. Ramsey will have 21 TD's and 12 picks this year, we go 9-7 and get a wildcard, and then, we will have a mother of a QB controversy in July of 06!!!

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