Around the NFL Week 14

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You are using ONE years stats to back up your point???

Seriously,your making fun of me when I actually backed up my argument with facts while you did not?
Plus that was TWO AND THREE QAURTERS,NOT ONE YEAR.And of course I only went back to 2009,why would I go any further? That was the yr before Shanahan got here and switched the defense

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Seriously,your making fun of me when I actually backed up my argument with facts while you did not?
Plus that was TWO AND THREE QAURTERS,NOT ONE YEAR.And of course I only went back to 2009,why would I go any further? That was the yr before Shanahan got here and switched the defense

The are three more games to be played.

We added talent(RAK and AH), hence the spike in sacks to 40. We add more talent(i.e Jenkins) and play the better players(Riley), we can only further improve.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Seriously,your making fun of me when I actually backed up my argument with facts while you did not?
Plus that was TWO AND THREE QAURTERS,NOT ONE YEAR.And of course I only went back to 2009,why would I go any further? That was the yr before Shanahan got here and switched the defense

They had one decent year in sacks and you cherry picked it. The 4-3 and the great Greg Williams didn't do squat in terms of changing games. We were never this great defense that fans claim. Bend but not break doesn't make you a good defense.


4-3 Defense
2005 - 20th in NFL in sacks
2006 - 32nd in NFL in sacks
2007 - 16th in NFL in sacks
2008 - 28th in NFL in sacks
2009 - 8th in NFL in sacks

3-4 Defense Change
2010 - 25th in NFL in sacks
2011- 11th in NFL in sacks



4-3 Defense
2005- 14th in NFL in INTs
2006- 32nd in NFL in INTs
2007- 23rd in NFL in INTs
2008- 17th in NFL in INTs
2009- 26th in NFL in INTs

3-4 Defense Change
2010 - 19th in NFL in INTs
2011 - 25th in NFL in INTs

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They had one decent year in sacks and you cherry picked it. The 4-3 and the great Greg Williams didn't do squat in terms of changing games. We were never this great defense that fans claim. Bend but not break doesn't make you a good defense.


4-3 Defense
2005 - 20th in NFL in sacks
2006 - 32nd in NFL in sacks
2007 - 16th in NFL in sacks
2008 - 28th in NFL in sacks
2009 - 8th in NFL in sacks

3-4 Defense Change
2010 - 25th in NFL in sacks
2011- 11th in NFL in sacks



4-3 Defense
2005- 14th in NFL in INTs
2006- 32nd in NFL in INTs
2007- 23rd in NFL in INTs
2008- 17th in NFL in INTs
2009- 26th in NFL in INTs

3-4 Defense Change
2010 - 19th in NFL in INTs
2011 - 25th in NFL in INTs

I wasnt cherry picking,I just went to the yr before shanahan took over.I dont want to get in a pissing match with you over this,I want to get along with everybody,were just not going to agree on this.The defense improved on interceptions,so what? The defense is not any better,if anything its worse.Untill we get a nosetackle than can anchor that line its probably gonna stay that way.For the life of me I can not understand how anyone thinks it was a smart move to switch to the 3-4 without the personel to run it.Good coaches run the schemes that fit their players,not the other way around.
I think if you asked experts around the league you would get a unanamous descision that shanahan is a good coach but terrible at being a GM.To me this was the first of his many bad descisions as GM.{yes I know bruce Allen is the GM but we all know its Mike calling the shots}
Remember the yr Clevelands defense sucked so bad then in the offseason shanahan signed almost their whole defensive line? He cannot be trusted with full control,his ego is bigger then Dallas and I dont see him improving.The team will probably get better despite him with our high draft order