Jim Haslett's inconsist defense

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Through 15 Weeks, the Redskins had one of the most consistent defenses in the NFL.

That's not true anymore, obviously, but it not like inconsistency is a plague that runs through this team. It's a veteran laden defense that offers you pretty much the same effort every week. This week, it failed to stop Joe Webb and Toby Gerhart. Oh well. I'll be more interested to see how it does next week against a bunch of guys we'll see again in 2012 when they are trying to win the super bowl.

And if they shut down the Eagles, no one is going to sit and lament how inconsistent they were the last two weeks.

How about against Carolina, Buffalo, Miami, Jets, NE, Minnesota?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

How about against Carolina, Buffalo, Miami, Jets, NE, Minnesota?

Wait, you're just talking about wins and losses then? Your list looks like a bunch of good teams, and then yesterday against backups. At least thats how I see it.

[12thMan]

I like the individual parts if not the scheme and execution. I think Perry Riley is a real keeper and has been a pleasant surprise this season. In fact, if you look at the front seven I'm not sure where the Skins are in need of a significant upgrade. This helps us come draft time as we can focus on depth and plug some holes in the back four.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I like the individual parts if not the scheme and execution. I think Perry Riley is a real keeper and has been a pleasant surprise this season. In fact, if you look at the front seven I'm not sure where the Skins are in need of a significant upgrade. This helps us come draft time as we can focus on depth and plug some holes in the back four.

I don't question the talent, but I do the scheme and lack of adjustment, it's been 2 years and he still hasn't adjusted to a scrambling type QB.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't question the talent, but I do the scheme and lack of adjustment, it's been 2 years and he still hasn't adjusted to a scrambling type QB.

I think its fair to say that Michael Vick has given Haslett fits and is the one QB who it has taken him all the way until half to adjust to, but I want to give him the first half of next week before I write off his tenure as "cant defend scrambling quarterbacks."

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think its fair to say that Michael Vick has given Haslett fits and is the one QB who it has taken him all the way until half to adjust to, but I want to give him the first half of next week before I write off his tenure as "cant defend scrambling quarterbacks."

Vick, Newton, Fitzpatrick, Moore, Ponder/Webb, all these guys gave Haslett's D problems scrambling and couldn't even adjust to Newton, Moore, Fitzpatrick, Ponder/Webb, Vick. 2 years and still not fixed, let's see how he handles Vick next week.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't question the talent, but I do the scheme and lack of adjustment, it's been 2 years and he still hasn't adjusted to a scrambling type QB.

I can understand why you dont question the talent, because its no question that this team doesnt have much talent. I have to believe that there are adjustments being made but I have no doubt those adjustments are limited because of what the limited talent can/cant do.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't question the talent, but I do the scheme and lack of adjustment, it's been 2 years and he still hasn't adjusted to a scrambling type QB.

Adjustments, if the rest of the team went from 31 to what 14th in the NFL we would have adjusted ourself into the playoffs. We improved a 100% this yr at D so lets not tear that apart.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Adjustments, if the rest of the team went from 31 to what 14th in the NFL we would have adjusted ourself into the playoffs. We improved a 100% this yr at D so lets not tear that apart.

2010 vs 2011 is a BS comparison regarding the defense. 2009 vs 2011 is the real indicator of the new regimes defensive performance. It's a different scheme but you'd have to put together a graduate thesis trying to prove it's better than what Mike/Jim inherited and it would still be a weak argument.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by The Goat

2010 vs 2011 is a BS comparison regarding the defense. 2009 vs 2011 is the real indicator of the new regimes defensive performance. It's a different scheme but you'd have to put together a graduate thesis trying to prove it's better than what Mike/Jim inherited and it would still be a weak argument.

It was the teams idea to switch to the 3/4 not Jim's he was just the coach we hired to make the switch. He improved a ton this year so there is no reason to switch coaches when they are improving. For pretty much the past 15 yrs its been the O thats hurt this team. If our O could just have one more long drive per game instead of a 3 and out our D would be ranked close to the top 5.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Adjustments, if the rest of the team went from 31 to what 14th in the NFL we would have adjusted ourself into the playoffs. We improved a 100% this yr at D so lets not tear that apart.

Of course it improved due to better talent brought on board, Kerrigan, Bowen, Cofield, Atogwe, Wilson are examples. They better have improved after spending a 1st (Kerrigan) and and 80 Mil on Atogwe, Bowen and Cofield. Haslett still couldn't adjust to scrambling QB's and I'm not talking about Vick or Newton, how about Matt Moore, Fitzpatrick and Ponder? All scrambled at will, Ponder got hurt and then Webb took over, Haslett couldn't even adjust to those guys.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Of course it improved due to better talent brought on board, Kerrigan, Bowen, Cofield, Atogwe, Wilson are examples. They better have improved after spending a 1st (Kerrigan) and and 80 Mil on Atogwe, Bowen and Cofield. Haslett still couldn't adjust to scrambling QB's and I'm not talking about Vick or Newton, how about Matt Moore, Fitzpatrick and Ponder? All scrambled at will, Ponder got hurt and then Webb took over, Haslett couldn't even adjust to those guys.

Lets talk about the examples you gave. Matt Moore and the Dolphins were playing really good football and went on a little streak. Plus the Dolphins D was playing really well, I dont think Matt Moore really did too much damage against us. It was letting Reggie Bush finally play well and score 2 TD's.

Fitzpatrick - if I recall, there were not many teams in the NFL able to stop the Bills offense, especially when we were playing them. Again, if i recall Fred Jackson torched us for a couple hundred, not so much Fitzpatrick. Ponder wasn't doing jack against us and Webb took over and made some plays.

This crap about being able to plan or game plan for mobile QB's is a joke. You prepare to play a team and their weapons. You can't game plan soley against Vick, if so you'll get destroyed by everyone else. Same with Cam. I think people are just looking for something to pick at. And stopping mobile QB's isn't a REDSKIN problem, its generally an NFL problem. VIck, Newton (forgive me if I can't think of another mobile QB of their talentS) are not the normal QB.

This is ridiculous.

[Chico23231]

they had a really bad game yesterday, Wilson was terrible at Corner, Riley was out of position a ton, Reed was just Reed, not a starting saftey in the NFL. OJ at safety seemed very slow again...Safety is a much more of a concern that CB going into the offseason.

Defense was bad yesterday period.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

they had a really bad game yesterday, Wilson was terrible at Corner, Riley was out of position a ton, Reed was just Reed, not a starting saftey in the NFL. OJ at safety seemed very slow again...Safety is a much more of a concern that CB going into the offseason.

Defense was bad yesterday period.

Did this guy just fall off a cliff or something? He's been awful this year. Either he's playing hurt or he just can't play.

[skinsfaninok]

I think the injuries hurt and also the fact that Brian hasn't had a great impact this season, honestly I just think he's a natural 4-3 DE? Kerrigan fits the 3-4 better IMO. That being said our D needs some serious help at CB and S.. OJA and LL were disappointments this season and Josh Wilson is a 3rd at best