2012 redskins

[diehard]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Ironical indeed...Jason Campbell is likely the top (available) FA QB since Oakland committed to Palmer. Ohhhh Mike and Kyle you guys make it so much fun!!

If I recall, Shanahan just wanted Campbell to compete not for Campbell to leave. Too many people in this world want to something for nothing. And no, I won't mention Barkley in this thread.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by diehard

If I recall, Shanahan just wanted Campbell to compete not for Campbell to leave. Too many people in this world want to something for nothing. And no, I won't mention Barkley in this thread.

I don't blame JC for not "competing." He was, and is, better than each QB Mike and Kyle brought in. And...he was already in DC and didn't cost picks etc.

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't blame JC for not "competing." He was, and is, better than each QB Mike and Kyle brought in. And...he was already in DC and didn't cost picks etc.

This is why I'm starting to believe we're a snakebitten franchise. I don't know maybe some disgrutled native Americans put a hex on the team due to their disdian for our name. Anyways, just seems that players perform better once they leave D.C which shouldn't be the case. Rogers and A. Carter are just the latest examples, no pro-bowlers this year but the 2 we though we could do without end up making the pro-bowl. Hell, if Rogers would of played for us like the did for the 49ers this year we would of been a playoff bound team last year.

As for J.C, since when did he learn to complete the deep ball? I can't count how many time he missed open recievers deep, however he's made some amazing deep throws to Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford in Oakland. Eventhough I wasn't a JC fan in his defense we never really built around him. Didn't get him a left tackle, didn't get him a solid core of recievers, all he had was a running back and a TE, which would rationalize why he turned into Captain checkdown when he played for us.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

This is why I'm starting to believe we're a snakebitten franchise. I don't know maybe some disgrutled native Americans put a hex on the team due to their disdian for our name. Anyways, just seems that players perform better once they leave D.C which shouldn't be the case. Rogers and A. Carter are just the latest examples, no pro-bowlers this year but the 2 we though we could do without end up making the pro-bowl. Hell, if Rogers would of played for us like the did for the 49ers this year we would of been a playoff bound team last year.

As for J.C, since when did he learn to complete the deep ball? I can't count how many time he missed open recievers deep, however he's made some amazing deep throws to Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford in Oakland. Eventhough I wasn't a JC fan in his defense we never really built around him. Didn't get him a left tackle, didn't get him a solid core of recievers, all he had was a running back and a TE, which would rationalize why he turned into Captain checkdown when he played for us.

carter was great here until we moved him to OLB (just like he was a great DE in SF before they went 3-4 and tried to move him to OLB). rogers was always good here, he just couldn't catch so people thought he was awful, which just hasn't ever been true. I guess it's the same way people think hall is great because he catches a pick for every 20 deep balls he gives up.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't blame JC for not "competing." He was, and is, better than each QB Mike and Kyle brought in. And...he was already in DC and didn't cost picks etc.

The humor on this board is sometimes overwhelming. JC is just as bad, or equal to Grossman. There I said it. JC made bad decisions, JC was not accurate on the long ball, JC needed all day to throw, JC might have been able to scramble better then Grossman I'll give you that, but otherwise his down side was similar to Grossmans and it would have taken him more then one offseason to learn the scheme... ie; McNabb. Grossman knew more then JC in regards to the scheme he just needed the WR's and OL to catch up to him. Now that they are close in understanding the scheme getting a better QB is in order.

[redskin29633]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The humor on this board is sometimes overwhelming. JC is just as bad, or equal to Grossman. There I said it. JC made bad decisions, JC was not accurate on the long ball, JC needed all day to throw, JC might have been able to scramble better then Grossman I'll give you that, but otherwise his down side was similar to Grossmans and it would have taken him more then one offseason to learn the scheme... ie; McNabb. Grossman knew more then JC in regards to the scheme he just needed the WR's and OL to catch up to him. Now that they are close in understanding the scheme getting a better QB is in order.

Really makes me wonder why Gibbs was so fascinated with Campbell. When he was at Auburn, I could never see anything that would lead you to conclude that he would become even an average NFL QB. That's one that I will probably never understand.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by redskin29633

Really makes me wonder why Gibbs was so fascinated with Campbell. When he was at Auburn, I could never see anything that would lead you to conclude that he would become even an average NFL QB. That's one that I will probably never understand.

Gibbs thought very highly of Rypien and Williams. He saw qualities in them that he saw in Campbell.

[Hail to the Redskins]

One guy that hasn't been mentioned is WR Malcolm Floyd out of Notre Dame... I know a lot of people on here are in love with Justin Blackmon... but Floyd is a monster. Great size, strong as an Ox, can leap, and has great hands.

I've liked him since last year.

When is he supposed to go? Late 1st?

I seriously doubt we end up with him... but I think he's going to be a good pro.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

One guy that hasn't been mentioned is WR Malcolm Floyd out of Notre Dame... I know a lot of people on here are in love with Justin Blackmon... but Floyd is a monster. Great size, strong as an Ox, can leap, and has great hands.

I've liked him since last year.

When is he supposed to go? Late 1st?

I seriously doubt we end up with him... but I think he's going to be a good pro.

Many said the same about Golden Tate, in fact who was the Last ND WR to even be good in the NFL? Tim Brown?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

One guy that hasn't been mentioned is WR Malcolm Floyd out of Notre Dame... I know a lot of people on here are in love with Justin Blackmon... but Floyd is a monster. Great size, strong as an Ox, can leap, and has great hands.

I've liked him since last year.

When is he supposed to go? Late 1st?

I seriously doubt we end up with him... but I think he's going to be a good pro.

I've thought about him and Kendall Wright.

Wouldn't it be sweet to take a QB at sevenish and then trade back into the late first round to get Floyd or Wright?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

One guy that hasn't been mentioned is WR Malcolm Floyd out of Notre Dame... I know a lot of people on here are in love with Justin Blackmon... but Floyd is a monster. Great size, strong as an Ox, can leap, and has great hands.

I've liked him since last year.

When is he supposed to go? Late 1st?

I seriously doubt we end up with him... but I think he's going to be a good pro.

It's Michael Floyd. Malcolm Floyd is a Charger WR.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by redskin29633

Really makes me wonder why Gibbs was so fascinated with Campbell. When he was at Auburn, I could never see anything that would lead you to conclude that he would become even an average NFL QB. That's one that I will probably never understand.

he is and has been an average NFL quarterback. he sure worked out a lot better for oakland than those palmer games i watched.

[redskin29633]

Originally Posted by That Guy

he is and has been an average NFL quarterback. he sure worked out a lot better for oakland than those palmer games i watched.

JC may be slightly better than he appeared based on his collegiate performance, but not by much. My view of him is slightly below average, but that's not really the point. Regardless, average or just below, neither category explains Gibbs' fascination nor the Redskins' investment in him!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by diehard

If I recall, Shanahan just wanted Campbell to compete not for Campbell to leave. Too many people in this world want to something for nothing. And no, I won't mention Barkley in this thread.

Not sure what you mean since MS traded him. How did he just want him to compete and not for him to leave?