Jim Haslett's inconsist defense

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not a big fan of JH but we just don't have the players to be a great defense. I think the Cofield at NT has been somewhat of a failure. Orakpo is overrated. Kerrigan is a good player, but not great. He's not explosive like the rookie on SF. Even with LL the safties can't cover, and the corners are soft. The defense needs 3 elite players somewhere...whether it's a NT or end with JJ coming back or corner. We just need some elite players, not just average and slightly above average ones. Right now we don't have them.

Uh...have you watched this years games? Cofield has been stellar at NT given this is his first year ever playing that position, which leads me to believe given another year he'll be fantastic. Orakpo..overated..really?? People are looking at stats, and you have to consider Kerrigan is getting some sacks, Bowen has like 6 or 7, cofield, neild all have contributed to the sack total. Raks sacks will naturally be down given the production increase of surrounding players. I am not seeing anything true in any of the statements you have made. We have elite players on the D, Rak is only 3 years in, but made 2 probowls his first 2 years. Fletch is elite, leads the NFL in tackles at 36, I believe Hall has done a decent job.. but corners are effected by the safties, and we haven't had any help from Landry or #20 all season. Give these guys another off season, add some talent around them and we'll be a top 5 unit. We'll never be an elite D if we keep changing coaches and schemes every damn two years. I am sick of the constant change

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Uh...have you watched this years games? Cofield has been stellar at NT given this is his first year ever playing that position, which leads me to believe given another year he'll be fantastic. Orakpo..overated..really?? People are looking at stats, and you have to consider Kerrigan is getting some sacks, Bowen has like 6 or 7, cofield, neild all have contributed to the sack total. Raks sacks will naturally be down given the production increase of surrounding players. I am not seeing anything true in any of the statements you have made. We have elite players on the D, Rak is only 3 years in, but made 2 probowls his first 2 years. Fletch is elite, leads the NFL in tackles at 36, I believe Hall has done a decent job.. but corners are effected by the safties, and we haven't had any help from Landry or #20 all season. Give these guys another off season, add some talent around them and we'll be a top 5 unit. We'll never be an elite D if we keep changing coaches and schemes every damn two years. I am sick of the constant change

I'm sorry bro, but Rak is overrated. I don't know if you've seen his stat line vs NFC East opponents, but he's horrible. And when was the last time he had an interception, a multiple sack game -- or even a game changing sack? Sure he get's double team, but it seems to be working. All the great pass rushers and outside linebackers get their share of double teams, but it seems they have a way of taking Rak completely out of the game. No one's saying he's a bust or should be traded, but I don't think he's a top 5 guy right now.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm sorry bro, but Rak is overrated. I don't know if you've seen his stat line vs NFC East opponents, but he's horrible. And when was the last time he had an interception, a multiple sack game -- or even a game changing sack? Sure he get's double team, but it seems to be working. All the great pass rushers and outside linebackers get their share of double teams, but it seems they have a way of taking Rak completely out of the game. No one's saying he's a bust or should be traded, but I don't think he's a top 5 guy right now.

I honestly think so fans refuse to be happy or likes to complain and be miserable. It is his 2nd year in this D, 2nd playing OLB, and yeah his stats are down but dont you think that could be a result of the players around him. I dont believe he is overrated, if he was he wouldn't get doubled and chipped the entire game. Obviously O-coordinators dont think he's overrated.