Mike Shanahan

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm not seeing where the 2010 team was ready to win much of anything. A lot of those guys were either over the hill (Portis) or not a good scheme fit (Carter), or were just flat out bums (Haynesworth). That was a team that went 4-12 in 2009 too.

None of those three entered the 2010 offseason as any of those things. Maybe Portis as over the hill, but in the five games he managed to be healthy enough to play that year, he did pretty good.

While creativity hasn't been Haslett's major weakness, the inability to make Andre Carter a useful player in his scheme given his exceptional 2009 and 2011 seasons is one of his biggest failures as Redskins DC. Even Gregg Williams made a number of errors over his four seasons here (Pierce, Clark, Archuleta), so it's not like Haslett is a total stiff, but that's still a pretty big failure. Oh well, we're better off with Kerrigan anyway.

There's no reason to rehash Shanahan's role in the Haynesworth saga. It was a dumb situation through and through, and when neither is associated with the Redskins any longer, I think the franchise will be better for it. The only thing we've learned recently is that he's not exactly Randy Moss.

The 2010 team was not much of a team when Shanahan got his hands on it. The Redskins needed to move Zorn out, and find a coach who wasn't a roster tinkerer, but someone who could come in and win right away with a veteran team. Mike Shanahan wasn't that guy. He's a tinkerer. Window dressing is important to him. And that's not what the Redskins really needed.

Originally Posted by Mattyk

In the end to even discuss firing the guy now is ridiculous. Going in a different direction at this point would only guarantee the franchise will stay stuck in the mid spinning it's wheels.

That said I think the pressure will be on in 2012 to show some serious improvement in the 'W' column. 9-10 wins at least.

Wait, I'm not sure I understand.

9-10 wins will be a pretty big improvement, and certainly is within the realm of possibility, but if that's the improvement we need to show, I don't understand why it's too soon to talk about where the franchise will be if we fail to meet that goal.

I am not expecting the Redskins to win 10 games next year. And I think our best chance at winning 10 games would be getting lucky and finding the right coach for the job. Be that Bill Musgrave, Marc Trestman, Rob Chudzynski, Josh McDaniels, Chuck Pagano, Brian VanGorder, Jeremy Bates, Dave Toub, Clyde Christensen, Bill O'Brien, Matt Patricia, Pete Carmichael, Matt Cavanaugh, Jay Gruden, Bruce Ariens, Mike McCoy, Dennis Allen, Rob Ryan, Perry Fewell, Shane Day, or Mike Trgovac. Obviously, I couldn't tell you which of those coaches is the next great NFL head coach, but that's what the interview process is for.

You know, that thing we skipped last time.