What is RG3 worth to us?

[SmootSmack]

And I don't think it will be Floyd or Jeffrey at 6 (if the Browns trade down one of those guys will probably be a Brown)

And there's still the possibility, though perhaps less likely now, that's it's Tannehill at 6

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And I don't think it will be Floyd or Jeffrey at 6 (if the Browns trade down one of those guys will probably be a Brown)

And there's still the possibility, though perhaps less likely now, that's it's Tannehill at 6

I don't think Tannehill even begins to look good until the last five picks of the first round.

I think I would look at Foles around no. 6, and I would look at Osweiler (though I think that's ultimately too high for a developmental talent in Osweiler) because they offer me more value. The other guy who seems to make a lot of sense as a potential franchise guy is Kellen Moore, because I know exactly what I'm getting in him as passer.

I understand the inherent bias in scouting with a guys tools: if tools (size, strength, quickness, arm) didn't matter at all, we wouldn't need scouts, we could do everything with modern analytics. So the scouting bias against smaller guys with weaker arms is understandable. But when you see guys like Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford get taken in the first three picks, I'm not sure why it would be so unreasonable for a team to consider Kellen Moore in the first round. He's the best pure pocket passer in a draft that includes Andrew Luck.

As much as a love Robert Griffin's pro prospects (and I think he falls just shy of being a "first overall" type prospect), I think if given the exact same opportunities as a high first rounder, Moore could have the better career of the two. And I really like Griffin coming out.

[NYCskinfan82]

The Skins have to remember we are only 4 picks away from the Lambs, we can't give up to much to trade up, they want our picks just as much as we want their pick.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

The Skins have to remember we are only 4 picks away from the Lambs, we can't give up to much to trade up, they want our picks just as much as we want their pick.

Problem with that is that Jacksonsville or Cleveland would be more than happy to leap frog the Skins and get RG3.

[SmootSmack]

Big Kellen Moore fan, but I can't imagine him going in the first 2 rounds really

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Big Kellen Moore fan, but I can't imagine him going in the first 2 rounds really

Not unless there is a paradigm shift in the NFL in the next four months.

I mean, the thing with Moore is going to come even after he is drafted: there will always be someone on the roster along with him who looks like he could do the job better. And if he's teammates with Andrew Luck or Aaron Rodgers, then that perception is probably correct.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Let's say we don't get RGIII but draft Trent Richardson.

Trent Richardson
Roy Helu
Evan Royster

Good group and while I love Roy Helu he isn't Trent Richardson but will Shanny ever draft a RB 1st round? Even though Richardson could have a Adrian Peterson type rookie impact.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Let's say we don't get RGIII but draft Trent Richardson.

Trent Richardson
Roy Helu
Evan Royster

Good group and while I love Roy Helu he isn't Trent Richardson but will Shanny ever draft a RB 1st round? Even though Richardson could have a Adrian Peterson type rookie impact.

I've said it before, if we draft a RB in this upcoming draft with the two good backs we currently have, I'm driving to DC and slapping the shit out of Shanahan. (both of them)

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I've said it before, if we draft a RB in this upcoming draft with the two good backs we currently have, I'm driving to DC and slapping the shit out of Shanahan. (both of them)

I hear you and feel the same way but Trent Richardson isn't just "any" running back prospect.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I hear you and feel the same way but Trent Richardson isn't just "any" running back prospect.

We could get a gold mine for a team wanting to trade up. Shanahan has proved that you can plug in any RB in his system and they be productive. This is a QB driven league now. If our guy is off the board and Richardson is still up there, I would love to be able to trade down for a team wanting him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

We could get a gold mine for a team wanting to trade up. Shanahan has proved that you can plug in any RB in his system and they be productive. This is a QB driven league now. If our guy is off the board and Richardson is still up there, I would love to be able to trade down for a team wanting him.

If someone's going to trade a crap load of picks to trade up for Richardson, they actually have to 1) love Richardson, and 2) believe enough teams love Richardson enough where he won't make it where they pick.

And despite being the best available player after the top five, there's people who truly believe that when it comes down to it, Richardson is going to make it all the way to no. 17 when the Bengals pick.

If that's even a remotely accurate assessment of the situation, the Redskins won't be able to get anything for Richardson at no. 6, because any team that wants him can also go to 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, or 13 to get him.

The Redskins should take him though if he's the top offensive playmaker on their board, position be damned. Still, if they trade up to third, none of this is an issue because they can grab Griffin (in all likelihood) or Blackmon/Kalil in a worst case.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

We could get a gold mine for a team wanting to trade up. Shanahan has proved that you can plug in any RB in his system and they be productive. This is a QB driven league now. If our guy is off the board and Richardson is still up there, I would love to be able to trade down for a team wanting him.

He will be there but if you can't trade down I say draft him of course he's plan C but out of all the guys we are linked to skill position wise: Blackmon, Claiborne, RGIII, Richardson. He's the only one I see being there in every scenario.

[skinsfaninok]

The Portis-Bailey trade was horrible for us, I said it when it happened.. You just don't trade a True Shutdown Corner for a RB

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The Portis-Bailey trade was horrible for us, I said it when it happened.. You just don't trade a True Shutdown Corner for a RB

The 2nd rounder attached to it made it worse but what does that have to do with anything??

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

The 2nd rounder attached to it made it worse but what does that have to do with anything??

just talking about trades lol