What is Matt Flynn Worth to the Redskins

[30gut]

Does Flynn bring Jordy Nelson and the McCarthy's scheme with him?

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Does Flynn bring Jordy Nelson and the McCarthy's scheme with him?

What do you think is so different about there system?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

What do you think is so different about there system?

The fundamental foundation it is built on? We do very little of what they do in the passing game. We're both zone running teams, but that has nothing to do with Flynn.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The fundamental foundation it is built on? We do very little of what they do in the passing game. We're both zone running teams, but that has nothing to do with Flynn.

Green Bay does the same things on offense we do. They run the bootleg, they are west coast what is the huge difference. Flynn is a very athletic QB. He ran a 4.70 40ytd, thats faster than most. Not sure what the huge differences are.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

What do you think is so different about there system?

I would explain,(excluding the obvious like personnel)
but to avoid an uneccesary quibble:

Do you agree that McCarthy's offense is different from Kyle's?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Does Flynn bring Jordy Nelson and the McCarthy's scheme with him?

You OBVIOUSLY don't watch NFL football.

In all seriousness though he does remind me a bit of Schuab. In part because he's had not only strong preseasons but strong showings in limited regular season action. Both QB's also didn't have the strongest arms. I believe theres something there with Flynn but either way the Skins have to plot the course early. Do you make a strong offer for Flynn or do you hope you can trade up in the draft to get RG3 . You can only try both if you loose out on Flynn in Free Agency.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

In all seriousness though he does remind me a bit of Schuab. In part because he's had not only strong preseasons but strong showings in limited regular season action. Both QB's also didn't have the strongest arms. I believe theres something there with Flynn but either way the Skins have to plot the course early.

I think Schaub has a stronger arm, but that's neither here nor there because I actually think Flynn could be better then Rex in this scheme.
I base my opinion on skillsetand not their production.
By that same token I also think Josh Johnson could work, I wouldn't even be surprised if Jimmy Clausen was more productive then Rex in this offense.

I think all of those QBs have physical shortcomings.
And given the choice I prefer the most talented QB possible to groom.
And the hopeful outcome for that prospect is beyond being better then Rex.
The hopeful outcome would be a QB with the skillset to be great.
At the same time I acknowledge that not all great QB have a great skillset.
But why look for a needle in a stack of needles?

Do you make a strong offer for Flynn or do you hope you can trade up in the draft to get RG3 . You can only try both if you loose out on Flynn in Free Agency

I'm not convinced Griff won't be there when we pick.
And if he's not there another QB should be available like Bradford or McCoy then Flynn could be a distant fallback option.

I'm still upset by the lack of forsight at the QB position that has lead us here, now.
The FO should have been thinking about Flynn last year.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I think Schaub has a stronger arm, but that's neither here nor there because I actually think Flynn could be better then Rex in this scheme.
I base my opinion on skillsetand not their production.
By that same token I also think Josh Johnson could work, I wouldn't even be surprised if Jimmy Clausen was more productive then Rex in this offense.

I think all of those QBs have physical shortcomings.
And given the choice I prefer the most talented QB possible to groom.
And the hopeful outcome for that prospect is beyond being better then Rex.
The hopeful outcome would be a QB with the skillset to be great.
At the same time I acknowledge that not all great QB have a great skillset.
But why look for a needle in a stack of needles?


I'm not convinced Griff won't be there when we pick.
And if he's not there another QB should be available like Bradford or McCoy then Flynn could be a distant fallback option.

I'm still upset by the lack of forsight at the QB position that has lead us here, now.
The FO should have been thinking about Flynn last year.

If it is true that the Packers wanted a 1st and 3rd for Flynn I would be hesitant to pull the trigger. Think about what Arizona gave up for a mostly unproven, yet somehow highly touted, back-up QB in Kolb. And look how he's working out for them, not the greatest....

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

If it is true that the Packers wanted a 1st and 3rd for Flynn I would be hesitant to pull the trigger. Think about what Arizona gave up for a mostly unproven, yet somehow highly touted, back-up QB in Kolb. And look how he's working out for them, not the greatest....

I think that asking price was a spitball guesstimate just like I think a minimum of 3 1sts for Luck.
The trades/draft still operates on a barter/haggle system and everyone knows rule #1 of the bargain is...

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm still upset by the lack of forsight at the QB position that has lead us here, now.
The FO should have been thinking about Flynn last year.

Why are people so hyped up about Matt Flynn? Sure he had a hell of a game today, but what makes you think he can remotely duplicate that type of success anywhere else? He going to be our version of clipboard Jesus?


Shanny knows what the hell he's doing. I'm quite positive if he thinks Flynn is the type of talent he wants as his QB, he'll bring him in. From what I've gathered from a few insiders, they aren't interested in him so don't get your hopes up.


I still don't get why fans are still ripping Mike over the QB position with him having really 0 options elsewhere.

Draft? Locker got drafted before us.
FA? Vince Young is really tearing it up in Philly.
FA? Matt Hasselbeck? You want to pay a 36 year old 21 million to throw 6 fewer INTs?

Grossman: 16 TDs, 20 INTs, 3,151 yards, 72.4 QB rating (13 games)
Hasselbeck 18 TDs, 14 INTs, 3,571 yards, 82.4 QB rating (16 games)

Mind you, that's with Hasselbeck having Chris Johnson in the back field. The numbers aren't really that much different other than the INTs. Also, Rex has played 3 fewer games.

So where was this "magical fix" at the QB position you guys keep chirping about?

[2BIG2BSKINNY]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why are people so hyped up about Matt Flynn? Sure he had a hell of a game today, but what makes you think he can remotely duplicate that type of success anywhere else? He going to be our version of clipboard Jesus?

After reading a while and trying to get what the Skins will do...I think people liked what went on last year with draft picks and the possibility of several good players. And Spending money on Flynn or a FA still leaves us the option of our draft picks to continue the competition to make the roster better.

I agree with you that there were not a lot of options last year... so Grossman was the result!

I think since in the past money was never a barrier to sign players we are so use to overlook the ramifications of the highest bidder mentality and what it does to a roster of blue collar players.

I am currently giddy that there are options to cure what ails the Skins!!!

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why are people so hyped up about Matt Flynn? Sure he had a hell of a game today, but what makes you think he can remotely duplicate that type of success anywhere else? He going to be our version of clipboard Jesus?


Shanny knows what the hell he's doing. I'm quite positive if he thinks Flynn is the type of talent he wants as his QB, he'll bring him in. From what I've gathered from a few insiders, they aren't interested in him so don't get your hopes up.


I still don't get why fans are still ripping Mike over the QB position with him having really 0 options elsewhere.

Draft? Locker got drafted before us.
FA? Vince Young is really tearing it up in Philly.
FA? Matt Hasselbeck? You want to pay a 36 year old 21 million to throw 6 fewer INTs?

Grossman: 16 TDs, 20 INTs, 3,151 yards, 72.4 QB rating (13 games)
Hasselbeck 18 TDs, 14 INTs, 3,571 yards, 82.4 QB rating (16 games)

Mind you, that's with Hasselbeck having Chris Johnson in the back field. The numbers aren't really that much different other than the INTs. Also, Rex has played 3 fewer games.

So where was this "magical fix" at the QB position you guys keep chirping about?

Well, Shanahan also didn't have to "stake his reputation" on these two bums either. There was a certain arrogance with which he stuck with Rex and Beck that was pretty annoying.

[2BIG2BSKINNY]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, Shanahan also didn't have to "stake his reputation" on these two bums either. There was a certain arrogance with which he stuck with Rex and Beck that was pretty annoying.

What else did you want him to say!

" Grossman is a Bum!!! and Forget this season! I am looking forward to the offseason."

C'mon think about it... Mediocre players need every encouragement to try and lift there game. Did not work.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 2BIG2BSKINNY

What else did you want him to say!

" Grossman is a Bum!!! and Forget this season! I am looking forward to the offseason."

C'mon think about it... Mediocre players need every encouragement to try and lift there game. Did not work.

Really? You think Rex needs any encouragement? That guy forgets the pass he threw 2 seconds ago. And Beck? Needing encouragement? Hahaha. He led his own "I'm the starter" media campaign in the offseason better than any QB in history that has never been a regular starter. Mike could have handled it better than to "stake his reputation" on either one of those joe's, neither of whom needed any sort of confidence boost.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 2BIG2BSKINNY

What else did you want him to say!

" Grossman is a Bum!!! and Forget this season! I am looking forward to the offseason."

C'mon think about it... Mediocre players need every encouragement to try and lift there game. Did not work.

An arguably wise man once said: "five-n-eleven, not very good."

It would have been pretty moronic to rip on your starting quarterback before the season, but what was ACTUALLY said wasn't exactly much wiser. A simple "we'll explore all options" doesn't commit you to making a move and yet prevents you from looking like an imbecile at the end of the year.