What is RG3 worth to us?

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

This was more confusing than your first post, now I really don't know what the hell you're talking about..

Who is saying eschew the draft for free agency? In order to build a strong team we have to master BOTH avenues for acquiring players. So far, Shanahan has missed badly on two players, McNabb and Atogwe. Anyone else? You failed to mention the players we've added via free agency (Cofield, Bowen, Wilson) or via trade (Gaffney, Hightower, Carriker) that haven't been busts at all.

Here's a difficult reality you may need to come to terms with. Some professional athletes are assholes. Sometimes assholes are great players that can help your team win. If you want to root for choir boys then adopt your local Pop Warner team. Give me a talented prick over a polite loser. I'll be the first one posting hooray if we sign Desean Jackson because he represents the type of talent we haven't had on this team in decades. I'm not ignoring his flaws as a leader, just think we have enough character around him to keep him in line.

Since you mentioned whole other regime, then you should ignore the sins of front offices past when discussing the current offseason plan.

I'm a better talker than typer; I'll have a long thought in my head and then say about 3/4's of it and leave out some key words. Thats just a bad habit I have; My bad.

I love DeSean Jackson; I think he's a great player. Having said that he's also a diva and headcase. He also has character problems. Fat Albert was the same way; very talented, but also a headcase me me me kind of guy. The media just licks their chops when they get headcases like those two to talk about. I completely understand why you want DeSean. If the WR's weren't so good in the draft coming out, and we had a need, then yeah I'd get him, but there are some solid WR's in the draft, And even in FA, Marques Colston would be a better value in terms of production, character, teammate etc. You can win though with headcases just as much as you can win with the nice guys.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm a better talker than typer; I'll have a long thought in my head and then say about 3/4's of it and leave out some key words. Thats just a bad habit I have; My bad.

That's a good thing to consider before you decide to grill somebody. You may now remove your foot from your own mouth.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

That's a good thing to consider before you decide to grill somebody. You may now remove your foot from your own mouth.

When I'm wide awake, my thoughts get out, when its late at night, its like I said earlier. I should just grill you now for saying such a comment, instead of later tonight!


And Thank you for pointing out the other big name guys we got LJ Willie Parker Maake Kemoeatu, they were bad signings too. Luckily we didn't pay much to get them, however thats valuable roster spots which rookies could have had than those old vets.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

When I'm wide awake, my thoughts get out, when its late at night, its like I said earlier. I should just grill you now for saying such a comment, instead of later tonight!


And Thank you for pointing out the other big name guys we got LJ Willie Parker Maake Kemoeatu, they were bad signings too. Luckily we didn't pay much to get them, however thats valuable roster spots which rookies could have had than those old vets.

What valuable rookies? Who did we forego by signing LJ, Parker and Kemoetu? They were cheap bottom feeders. Given who was cut and who wasn't in 2009, I am not convinced they had any impact on this team's development at all. The only player I remember being of value was a A. Bryant who is still with the Eagles as 4-3 DT but who isn't even listed on their depth chart. Philadelphia Eagles 2011 Depth Chart - Base 4-3 D - ESPN.

When Belichick trades for trash like Haynesworth in hopes of a career renaissance it's hailed as brilliant. When we pick guys off the scrap heap in hopes of that they will have a career renaissance, it's "a waste of a roster space".

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

What valuable rookies? Who did we forego by signing LJ, Parker and Kemoetu? They were cheap bottom feeders. Given who was cut and who wasn't in 2009, I am not convinced they had any impact on this team's development at all. The only player I remember being of value was a A. Bryant who is still with the Eagles as 4-3 DT but who isn't even listed on their depth chart. Philadelphia Eagles 2011 Depth Chart - Base 4-3 D - ESPN.

When Belichick trades for trash like Haynesworth in hopes of a career renaissance it's hailed as brilliant. When we pick guys off the scrap heap in hopes of that they will have a career renaissance, it's "a waste of a roster space".

That was one of the best things Ive read on this site in a while, but in order to make a brilliant "move", you have to have a brilliant "coach". One, say, that doesnt have the following stat attached to his hall of fame career maybe?

On the other hand, there’s this: if he fails to do so this year (highly likely after the last two games), Mike Shanahan will have only won a division title in 3 of the 18 seasons in which he was head coach.

excerpted from - When Mike Shanahan is No Better Than Jim Zorn, That’s a Problem | The Big Lead