The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Isn't it funny how the year started off with so many choices at QB and possibilities,and now it has shrunk to just RGIII or free agency?

Personally I think that Tannehill, with seasoning, will make a dynamic NFL franchise QB. I would add him to your mix.

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Personally I think that Tannehill, with seasoning, will make a dynamic NFL franchise QB. I would add him to your mix.

Oh yea, there are options, and that cetainly could happen, but in the beginning of the season, so many Qbs were suppose to come out that the Redskins were definitely going to have several choices. Now everyone stayed, Luck is out of reach and RGIII might be too expensive to trade up for.

Which does open up options for the 2nd round QB, but I just don't see how Shanahan doesn't get at least one starter right off the bat, rather Flynn, RGIII or trade.

I personally see getting one elite guy, having rex as number 2 and then someone like Tannehill or maybe even Moore as a 3rd project QB.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Isn't it funny how the year started off with so many choices at QB and possibilities,and now it has shrunk to just RGIII or free agency?

This is as good as any to explain my basic thesis concerning how the "next years class is always better" theory works in a nutshell. (BTW this isn't directed at you Bushead, I'm just using your post to segway and further my propaganda)

Every year you get a bunch of QB's who play like first round QB's. A lot of those QB's are juniors.

So when it comes time to declare for the draft the QB's take cues from each other and make business decisions on weather or not they can get picked high enough to justify declaring early.

Someone deciding to go back to school like Barkley leads to a guy like RGIII declaring. Landry Jones decides to go back to school so Tyler Wilson strongly considers declaring right up until the last minute. Wondering if he can be a top 10 pick, then decides if he goes back to school he can be a top 5 pick.

Afterwards the QB's return for their senior years and a good amount don't put up as good numbers (Jake Locker), or do, but their flaws become more widespread and published in the media (Tim Tebow/Matt Leinart). Other guys get injured (Sam Bradford).

Then to make matters worse a bunch of Junior QB's start having breakthrough seasons so people start to list all those QB's for the upcoming draft assuming that they'll all declare, then when about half return to school the class is viewed as weaker then expected and expectations are placed on next years class.

The basic formula is this. Long list of QB's that includes juniors likely to return to school + QB's not playing up to expectations during senior year or exposing flaws = Next years class will be better.

[KI Skins Fan]

I'm annoyed by the posters who come on here and say that we shouldn't trade up to get RGIII. Those of you who have posted that have either not seen enough of RGIII or have seen so much of Rex that the horror of it has blinded you. Or, you just plain don't know what you're talking about.

I've seen a lot of college QB's in my 64 years and let me clue you in: RGIII is the TRUTH. We're talking about an instant starter, a true Franchise QB, and, in time, a possible All-Pro.

I've even seen where someone on here says he's not an accurate passer. You need to go back and look at some more film on him because RGIII is one of the most accurate deep passers that I have ever seen in college football.

The only concern I have about him is that we won't be able to trade up to get him.

Here's a summation on RGIII from Walter Football: "1/9/12: Griffin earned his Heisman Trophy and truly was the best player in college football this season as he led Baylor to a 10-win season. Griffin carried Baylor to thrilling wins over Oklahoma, Kansas and TCU. He has displayed a very strong arm and good mobility. His accuracy was phenomenal on passes to the short, intermediate, and deep part of the field. In 2011, Griffin completed 72 percent of his passes for 4,293 yards with 37 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has also rushed for 699 yards and 10 touchdowns. His decision-making was superb."

[Hail to the Redskins]

So Smoot... What is your opinion on the whole ESPN anchor, Manning & Saturday to the Redskins whole thing?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

So Smoot... What is your opinion on the whole ESPN anchor, Manning & Saturday to the Redskins whole thing?

Surprised he would say anything

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

So Smoot... What is your opinion on the whole ESPN anchor, Manning & Saturday to the Redskins whole thing?

Got a link ,becuase I have been looking for it and can't find it anywhere?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I'm annoyed by the posters who come on here and say that we shouldn't trade up to get RGIII. Those of you who have posted that have either not seen enough of RGIII or have seen so much of Rex that the horror of it has blinded you. Or, you just plain don't know what you're talking about.

I've seen a lot of college QB's in my 64 years and let me clue you in: RGIII is the TRUTH. We're talking about an instant starter, a true Franchise QB, and, in time, a possible All-Pro.

I've even seen where someone on here says he's not an accurate passer. You need to go back and look at some more film on him because RGIII is one of the most accurate deep passers that I have ever seen in college football.

The only concern I have about him is that we won't be able to trade up to get him.

Here's a summation on RGIII from Walter Football: "1/9/12: Griffin earned his Heisman Trophy and truly was the best player in college football this season as he led Baylor to a 10-win season. Griffin carried Baylor to thrilling wins over Oklahoma, Kansas and TCU. He has displayed a very strong arm and good mobility. His accuracy was phenomenal on passes to the short, intermediate, and deep part of the field. In 2011, Griffin completed 72 percent of his passes for 4,293 yards with 37 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has also rushed for 699 yards and 10 touchdowns. His decision-making was superb."

agreed. Get the kid in here at all costs. This bandaid on the qb position has gone on long enough. Pull the trigger. This years 1st and 3rd, next years 1st and 4th, to move up 3 spots and get our man.

Look at the NFC now. You have Rodgers, Brees, Eli Manning, Michael Vick, Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford, Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, Alex Smith, Jay Cutler, and all are very capable quarterbacks. When do we get one? When is DC going to get a quarterback that the fanbase doesn't have to make excuses for going INTO the game? One that doesnt lead the entire LEAGUE in turnovers? A quarterback that can put some points on the board. One that we can be proud of. We are within striking distance of that pick, and we need to pull the trigger and get RG3 in here. We have a decent enough line, and with a Free agency pickup at wide receiver, our squad is right there. But until the FO goes all in and gets their guy, our franchise will be mired in mediocrity. And that is the long and short of it.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I'm annoyed by the posters who come on here and say that we shouldn't trade up to get RGIII. Those of you who have posted that have either not seen enough of RGIII or have seen so much of Rex that the horror of it has blinded you. Or, you just plain don't know what you're talking about.

I've seen a lot of college QB's in my 64 years and let me clue you in: RGIII is the TRUTH. We're talking about an instant starter, a true Franchise QB, and, in time, a possible All-Pro.

I've even seen where someone on here says he's not an accurate passer. You need to go back and look at some more film on him because RGIII is one of the most accurate deep passers that I have ever seen in college football.

The only concern I have about him is that we won't be able to trade up to get him.

Here's a summation on RGIII from Walter Football: "1/9/12: Griffin earned his Heisman Trophy and truly was the best player in college football this season as he led Baylor to a 10-win season. Griffin carried Baylor to thrilling wins over Oklahoma, Kansas and TCU. He has displayed a very strong arm and good mobility. His accuracy was phenomenal on passes to the short, intermediate, and deep part of the field. In 2011, Griffin completed 72 percent of his passes for 4,293 yards with 37 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has also rushed for 699 yards and 10 touchdowns. His decision-making was superb."

I agree we should go for RG3 but I think it's silly for you to say you are annoyed at someone else for having a different opinion of how we should approach the draft. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm sure it won't happen but I personally feel our first option should be to deal for Bradford if Fisher wants RG3. We should go that route because he is better than any other QB prospect, has NFL game experience, and will come at a lower cost. Are you annoyed with me too?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I agree we should go for RG3 but I think it's silly for you to say you are annoyed at someone else for having a different opinion of how we should approach the draft. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm sure it won't happen but I personally feel our first option should be to deal for Bradford if Fisher wants RG3. We should go that route because he is better than any other QB prospect, has NFL game experience, and will come at a lower cost. Are you annoyed with me too?

No, because I took my meds between my first post and this one.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

No, because I took my meds between my first post and this one.

LOL. Too funny...

[sdskinsfan2001]

If the Browns draft RGIII what does everyone feel about trading 1 of our 4th round picks for Colt McCoy, if that was enough for the Browns to trade him? I would be all for it, he is still young and has potential to be good. He came from the Browns who don't have very much talent on offense, so I think he would be more capable with the Skins and the talent we add this off season. He has the mobility that Shanny likes. Then we would have our young starting quarterback plus # 6 overall pick and 6 other selections. I haven't seen this discussed anywhere. Then we could still draft another qb such as my guy Kirk Cousins, to completely re-do our qb situation.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I'm annoyed by the posters who come on here and say that we shouldn't trade up to get RGIII. Those of you who have posted that have either not seen enough of RGIII or have seen so much of Rex that the horror of it has blinded you. Or, you just plain don't know what you're talking about.

I've seen a lot of college QB's in my 64 years and let me clue you in: RGIII is the TRUTH. We're talking about an instant starter, a true Franchise QB, and, in time, a possible All-Pro.

I've even seen where someone on here says he's not an accurate passer. You need to go back and look at some more film on him because RGIII is one of the most accurate deep passers that I have ever seen in college football.

The only concern I have about him is that we won't be able to trade up to get him.

Here's a summation on RGIII from Walter Football: "1/9/12: Griffin earned his Heisman Trophy and truly was the best player in college football this season as he led Baylor to a 10-win season. Griffin carried Baylor to thrilling wins over Oklahoma, Kansas and TCU. He has displayed a very strong arm and good mobility. His accuracy was phenomenal on passes to the short, intermediate, and deep part of the field. In 2011, Griffin completed 72 percent of his passes for 4,293 yards with 37 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has also rushed for 699 yards and 10 touchdowns. His decision-making was superb."

Bingo! It has to be taken in consideration that this is a rare, golden opportunity to land such superb talent. Either that or they opt to strenghten the team in others areas and take the tougher path at developing an average QB.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I'm annoyed by the posters who come on here and say that we shouldn't trade up to get RGIII. Those of you who have posted that have either not seen enough of RGIII or have seen so much of Rex that the horror of it has blinded you. Or, you just plain don't know what you're talking about.

I've seen a lot of college QB's in my 64 years and let me clue you in: RGIII is the TRUTH. We're talking about an instant starter, a true Franchise QB, and, in time, a possible All-Pro.

I've even seen where someone on here says he's not an accurate passer. You need to go back and look at some more film on him because RGIII is one of the most accurate deep passers that I have ever seen in college football.

The only concern I have about him is that we won't be able to trade up to get him.

Here's a summation on RGIII from Walter Football: "1/9/12: Griffin earned his Heisman Trophy and truly was the best player in college football this season as he led Baylor to a 10-win season. Griffin carried Baylor to thrilling wins over Oklahoma, Kansas and TCU. He has displayed a very strong arm and good mobility. His accuracy was phenomenal on passes to the short, intermediate, and deep part of the field. In 2011, Griffin completed 72 percent of his passes for 4,293 yards with 37 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has also rushed for 699 yards and 10 touchdowns. His decision-making was superb."

I never said "don't trade up to get RG III". My fear is that the price of the trade-up will be more than a team with as many needs as the Redskins can afford.

Someone here said to get him "at any cost". I got off the train LONG before we got to "any cost". Let's think about what "any cost" means:

First round picks in 2012, 13, 14 - - plus - -
Second round picks in 2012, 13, 14 - - plus - -
Orakpo, Kerrigan AND Helu.

Or maybe the Skins should bid even higher if necessary...?

Robert Griffin III will likely be a very good QB in the NFL and possibly a multi-time Pro Bowl player. But it is the cost of trading up that has to be weighed here because the Washington Redskins are not merely one player away from "greatness".

[diehard]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

I never said "don't trade up to get RG III". My fear is that the price of the trade-up will be more than a team with as many needs as the Redskins can afford.

Someone here said to get him "at any cost". I got off the train LONG before we got to "any cost". Let's think about what "any cost" means:

First round picks in 2012, 13, 14 - - plus - -
Second round picks in 2012, 13, 14 - - plus - -
Orakpo, Kerrigan AND Helu.

Or maybe the Skins should bid even higher if necessary...?

Robert Griffin III will likely be a very good QB in the NFL and possibly a multi-time Pro Bowl player. But it is the cost of trading up that has to be weighed here because the Washington Redskins are not merely one player away from "greatness".

Venture capitalist.