The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

you know, someone on here recommended brandon weeden which I shot down, but if you think about it, I shouldn't, and nor should we, shoot down the possibility of getting him, regardless of his age, because he may enter the league as a 28 year old, but, Kurt Warner also did the same thing, and it's QB, a position where guys will play until their in that late 30's, early 40's. Vinny Testerverde played until he was like 46 or something.

For me it's not his age I just don't think he's that good, playing w a loaded offense and a conference with no d helped him a bunch, unlike Sam who proved he had all the tools

#Hail to the Redskins

[ethat001]

Interestingly, Jason Campbell was not great but at least he would have been cheap and wouldn't have cost us multiple draft picks and years of agony over McNabb, Rexy, and some guy named Beck. Bad choices come back to haunt you. But yes -- now we need a real QB.


My choices in order of preference:
1) Bradford (if this happens, would be ecstatic).
2) Luck (if Colts pass on him so Peyton and rookie get along better)
3) RG3 - I'm still skeptical on running QBs, but does seem smarter & accurate..
4) Flynn - one game wonder, sure, but he still looked better than Rex ever did.
5) Orton - doesn't seem to win, but his numbers always seem to look good
6) Hoyer - Wouldn't be excited about this, but rumors here say he's highly regarded


Bradford would be wonderful, because we could land a proven franchise QB. Our O-line and WR core sucks - but is probably better than the Rams. Think he would do well here. I've read Clausen's name thrown around, but wouldn't want him here - seems like a bust already.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Interestingly, Jason Campbell was not great but at least he would have been cheap and wouldn't have cost us multiple draft picks and years of agony over McNabb, Rexy, and some guy named Beck. Bad choices come back to haunt you. But yes -- now we need a real QB.


My choices in order of preference:
1) Bradford (if this happens, would be ecstatic).
2) Luck (if Colts pass on him so Peyton and rookie get along better)
3) RG3 - I'm still skeptical on running QBs, but does seem smarter & accurate..
4) Flynn - one game wonder, sure, but he still looked better than Rex ever did.
5) Orton - doesn't seem to win, but his numbers always seem to look good
6) Hoyer - Wouldn't be excited about this, but rumors here say he's highly regarded


Bradford would be wonderful, because we could land a proven franchise QB. Our O-line and WR core sucks - but is probably better than the Rams. Think he would do well here. I've read Clausen's name thrown around, but wouldn't want him here - seems like a bust already.

id be happy with bradford, but i wouldnt say hes a "proven franchise QB". hes far from proven. he had a decent rookie season and was injured much of this season. all that he has proven is that he can be decent with a shitty team. he has great potential though.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Interestingly, Jason Campbell was not great but at least he would have been cheap and wouldn't have cost us multiple draft picks and years of agony over McNabb, Rexy, and some guy named Beck. Bad choices come back to haunt you. But yes -- now we need a real QB.


My choices in order of preference:
1) Bradford (if this happens, would be ecstatic).
2) Luck (if Colts pass on him so Peyton and rookie get along better)
3) RG3 - I'm still skeptical on running QBs, but does seem smarter & accurate..
4) Flynn - one game wonder, sure, but he still looked better than Rex ever did.
5) Orton - doesn't seem to win, but his numbers always seem to look good
6) Hoyer - Wouldn't be excited about this, but rumors here say he's highly regarded


Bradford would be wonderful, because we could land a proven franchise QB. Our O-line and WR core sucks - but is probably better than the Rams. Think he would do well here. I've read Clausen's name thrown around, but wouldn't want him here - seems like a bust already.

I think Bradford would be a perfect fit here, do have concerns about his health though

I don't think trading for Luck would necessarily be much more difficult than RG3

I don't think I'd label RG3 a "running QB" but I do think the gap between him and Luck is greater than others do

Not against getting Flynn that shouldn't be our only QB move then

Would tolerate Orton as a stopgap/backup as long as we draft a QB (or two)

I haven't seen enough of him, but there is a lot (A LOT) of buzz about him. Rumors of him coming here, of him returning home to Ohio to play for the Browns, of the Chiefs even showing interest. I've talked to a few scouts who have said Hoyer is better than Flynn. I don't know

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think I'd label RG3 a "running QB" but I do think the gap between him and Luck is greater than others do

I think people (and possibly some scouts?) probably think that RGIII's ceiling or potential is higher than Luck's. I hate to use this example but it comes down to that Manning vs Leaf debate back in '98. I hate to use this example because of how horrible Leaf's tenure in the NFL went, but he did have the bigger ceiling and potential to be even a better QB than Peyton. It's just too bad he didn't have the drive, determination, and competitive spirit that Peyton possessed.

[MTK]

Cutler and Grossman shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.

[MTK]

Against NE last year he had 3 TDs, 1 INT, and 1 lost fumble.

For his entire career he has 9 TDs, 5 INTs, and 2 lost fumbles.

Maybe I'm missing something.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Against NE last year he had 3 TDs, 1 INT, and 1 lost fumble.

For his entire career he has 9 TDs, 5 INTs, and 2 lost fumbles.

Maybe I'm missing something.

9 TDs to 7 turnovers?...lol Not a good ratio. So he had 5 turnovers between the NE and Detroit game. Still a bit high considering both of them were bad defenses.

[MTK]

Well, we're talking about a small sample, and a guy that doesn't play regularly. I wouldn't look too far into his stats either way.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Well, we're talking about a small sample, and a guy that doesn't play regularly. I wouldn't look too far into his stats either way.

Very true. That's why I think it's hard to give that guy big money based on his small sample AND his talent evaluation back when he was drafted. Some team will though no doubt. QB is such a high commodity.

[Eknox]

I truly don't see how we are going to get a QB worth anything, Cleveland has more to give to move up[ for RG3 and there will be competition for Flynn, don't want to give up the farm for Hoyer.There's just not a lot of options especially with other teams needing QB's also.
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[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Eknox

I truly don't see how we are going to get a QB worth anything, Cleveland has more to give to move up[ for RG3 and there will be competition for Flynn, don't want to give up the farm for Hoyer.There's just not a lot of options especially with other teams needing QB's also.
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Here are the QB who potentially could be available at one point or another (excluding draft picks) this offseason:
Peyton Manning
Kevin Kolb
Mark Sanchez
Chad Henne
Matt Flynn
Brian Hoyer
Kyle Orton
Matt Leinart

I didn't put Sam Bradford on the list because Fisher noted him as a main reason he chose St. Louis over Miami. But the Manning decision will impact at least 3-4 teams. Let's say for example Manning is released, signs with Arizona who trades Kolb to the Browns meaning they are no longer in play for RGIII. Or the scenario that SS put out there that the Jets sign Manning, then trade Sanchez here. Until March 8, the QB derby is all speculation. If Manning is free then many doors open.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Here are the QB who potentially could be available at one point or another (excluding draft picks) this offseason:
Peyton Manning
Kevin Kolb
Mark Sanchez
Chad Henne
Matt Flynn
Brian Hoyer
Kyle Orton
Matt Leinart

I didn't put Sam Bradford on the list because Fisher noted him as a main reason he chose St. Louis over Miami. But the Manning decision will impact at least 3-4 teams. Let's say for example Manning is released, signs with Arizona who trades Kolb to the Browns meaning they are no longer in play for RGIII. Or the scenario that SS put out there that the Jets sign Manning, then trade Sanchez here. Until March 8, the QB derby is all speculation. If Manning is free then many doors open.

Also Colt McCoy, Jimmy Clausen, and Vince Young

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Also Colt McCoy, Jimmy Clausen, and Vince Young

It's like digging through the trash can trying to find quality meal.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

It's like digging through the trash can trying to find quality meal.

I agree with you too. The team might as well start looking to improve in other areas if they aren't willing to do what's necessary to draft a top QB prospect.

#loweredexpectations