The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Higskin

Big risk IMO - he'd be tagged at ~$14 mil and if he was smart, would sign the contract right away. Then Packers have until Mar 13th to trade him or take the contract hit.

They can't trade him until the 13th. Anything negotiated prior to that is tampering and also teams can't franchise a player with the idea of trading him. So, if I'm a team wanting Flynn, I refuse to give them anything and then report them to the league for the violation.

[Higskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They can't trade him until the 13th. Anything negotiated prior to that is tampering and also teams can't franchise a player with the idea of trading him. So, if I'm a team wanting Flynn, I refuse to give them anything and then report them to the league for the violation.

Should have written "found out if they could trade him by Mar13th".

Packers maneuvering franchise tag for Flynn?

"Though the Packers must franchise him by March 5, he won't count against their cap until March 13, the first day of the league calendar. The one thing they don't want to happen is to get stuck with Flynn on their roster at $14.4 million with no trade partner."

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They can't trade him until the 13th. Anything negotiated prior to that is tampering and also teams can't franchise a player with the idea of trading him. So, if I'm a team wanting Flynn, I refuse to give them anything and then report them to the league for the violation.

Are you sure? W/out looking it up, it seems to me many a player has been franchised with the intent of getting a trade. How would you prove that the "intent to trade" (barring something idiotic like the GM saying "Oh, we don't want him, we just tagged him to trade him")?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Are you sure? W/out looking it up, it seems to me many a player has been franchised with the intent of getting a trade. How would you prove that the "intent to trade" (barring something idiotic like the GM saying "Oh, we don't want him, we just tagged him to trade him")?

Flynn departure may not aid Packers - JSOnline

So once the Packers tag Flynn, that $14 million counts against their salary cap. Flynn would automatically become the highest-paid player on the team in terms of annual salary.

NFL teams are prohibited from trading franchise players. In fact, the rules say you may not franchise a player with the intent to sign him to a contract and then trade him. However, this rule has been broken before and the NFL tends to look the other way.

This is where I got this from. Like you said, how could you really prove that?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They can't trade him until the 13th. Anything negotiated prior to that is tampering and also teams can't franchise a player with the idea of trading him. So, if I'm a team wanting Flynn, I refuse to give them anything and then report them to the league for the violation.

?

It's only tampering if other teams try to talk with him or his agent. Other teams can talk to the organization. The organization can talk to other teams now even in effect shopping him to see what they could get for him. If they think there is enough interest they should tag him and see what trade they could get. It also would help out Miami if they plan to sign him and GB wants to help them out. Flynn doesn't see the open market and doesn't get a choice as to where he wants to go. Even if it is Miami. It also ensures he does not go to another NFC team.

It pisses me off but who cares.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Flynn to get franchise tag?

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Smart

[GTripp0012]

And with regards to Henne, if you isolate his passing away from his running, you get a completely different story.

Passing DYAR divided by games started for "successful" QB draft picks (2005-2011)

1. Aaron Rodgers 95.35
2. Matt Ryan 75.55
3. Joe Flacco 42.73
4. Chad Henne 41.03
5. Matthew Stafford 36.24
6. Jay Cutler 33.50
7. Jason Campbell 30.53
8. Kyle Orton 22.91
9. Josh Freeman 21.12
10. Ryan Fitzpatrick 8.87

He had the advantage of sitting his first season, so subjectively, you might want to switch him and Stafford, but he's still one of the best QBs (by passing) picked in the last seven drafts.

[GTripp0012]

Newton was 38.69 by the same metric this year, for context, and he gets no value for his rushing contributions.

[NM Redskin]

Hene/Orton would be a nice insurance policy wither we try and trade up for RG3 or try and trade down for Taneihill. It's not assured that either will be there, at the same time not handcuffing us to make a deal so we over pay.

[That Guy]

i'd probably take henne over orton, but he's still meh to me.

[skinsfaninok]

Henne sucks period no thanks

[irish]

I was surprised to read that RGIII isnt going to throw at the combine, he's only going to run. IMO that's not a good sign.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I was surprised to read that RGIII isnt going to throw at the combine, he's only going to run. IMO that's not a good sign.

Why is that not a good sign?

Luck isn't throwing either.

They have nothing to gain.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why is that not a good sign?

Luck isn't throwing either.

They have nothing to gain.

It just seems to me that if a QB doesnt want to throw he's trying to hide something like a weak arm or inaccuracy. Throwing is everything for an NFL QB. If you have nothing to gain why bother going to Indy at all?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by irish

It just seems to me that if a QB doesnt want to throw he's trying to hide something like a weak arm or inaccuracy. Throwing is everything for an NFL QB. If you have nothing to gain why bother going to Indy at all?

Well RG3 doesn't have a weak arm and has great accuracy on his deep ball. Probably the best deep ball thrower in the draft. A lot of guys don't throw at the combine. No big deal.

The guys go to meet the teams and talk with them. It's not just about the drills. They all throw at their pro days.