The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

For what it's worth, I spoke with Ourlads' Dan Shonka on the local sports talk radio show call-in period the other day with exactly this question -- what will Mike Holmgren do?

According to Shonka, Holmgren believes that McCoy was best suited for the West Coast offense, and is more likely to spend his draft pick getting help for McCoy, perhaps Blackmon or Matt Kalil.

Just one guy's opinion, of course.

That's definitely possible but my real point is that the Redskins need to assume RG3 will be gone by #6 one way or the other. So their plan can not be to draft RG3 at #6. The plan needs to either be to trade up for him or target a different QB. If last years QB plan was really to draft locker at #10 then we all saw how that worked out...

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by celts32

That's definitely possible but my real point is that the Redskins need to assume RG3 will be gone by #6 one way or the other. So their plan can not be to draft RG3 at #6. The plan needs to either be to trade up for him or target a different QB. If last years QB plan was really to draft locker at #10 then we all saw how that worked out...

Yeah I don't see any way we end up with RGIII at 6. Also, free agency starts long before the draft, so if we have any interest in a guy like Flynn, we'll have to pull the trigger before we see how the whole Luck/RGII and possibly Sam Bradford scenarios play out. Or maybe we just stay and 6th and reach for a guy like Tannehill... It's going to be a quite a ride.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yeah I don't see any way we end up with RGIII at 6. Also, free agency starts long before the draft, so if we have any interest in a guy like Flynn, we'll have to pull the trigger before we see how the whole Luck/RGII and possibly Sam Bradford scenarios play out. Or maybe we just stay and 6th and reach for a guy like Tannehill... It's going to be a quite a ride.

I think we need to go hard after Matt Flynn, I mean we can still draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round too.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yeah I don't see any way we end up with RGIII at 6. Also, free agency starts long before the draft, so if we have any interest in a guy like Flynn, we'll have to pull the trigger before we see how the whole Luck/RGII and possibly Sam Bradford scenarios play out. Or maybe we just stay and 6th and reach for a guy like Tannehill... It's going to be a quite a ride.

I just don't think the Redskins draft a QB at #6. If they draft a QB in the first round, it's going to be either because they move up, or they trade down and grab Tannehill toward the end of the first round or the second. Like I said before, I'm starting to believe more that the Redskins will actually move up to snag RG III. I didn't think so before when Barkley and Jones were possibilities.

As far as free agency, I'm thinking the 'skins pick up someone like Jimmy Clausen on the cheap as a backup guy (replacing John Beck) and drafting one of the two top QBs in the draft. Other than Cleveland, who else who truly needs a QB will be a good position to move up?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I just don't think the Redskins draft a QB at #6. If they draft a QB in the first round, it's going to be either because they move up, or they trade down and grab Tannehill toward the end of the first round or the second. Like I said before, I'm starting to believe more that the Redskins will actually move up to snag RG III. I didn't think so before when Barkley and Jones were possibilities.

As far as free agency, I'm thinking the 'skins pick up someone like Jimmy Clausen on the cheap as a backup guy (replacing John Beck) and drafting one of the two top QBs in the draft. Other than Cleveland, who else who truly needs a QB will be a good position to move up?

I like your response to my comment. I agree with you. If the team wants RGIII they are going to have to move up ahead of the Browns somehow. But I think the cost will be too much. Thats the only area where we are different. and I don't think MS will trade because of it being too costly. But no one ever knows what will happen.

Personally I think they will go hard for a Vet in FA and if they haven't had to give up their 1st or 2nd round draft pick they might still try to trade up, but the trade up depends on at what cost. I also think depending on who they get as a Vet might depend on whether they think it's worth holding off until the 2nd round to take a QB or if they should look into trading up.

It only makes sense. If you get a really good Vet then you can pick up a later round QB and develope him. There will be a need to fill the Vet spot Beck leaves. and what do they do with Grossman? if he leaves or the team does not retain him then there will be another spot to fill. If the team doesn't get a quality QB in FA then they should go after RGIII.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

It boils down to whether or not the Browns take Trent Richardson and move on with Colt McCoy and I think they will.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

It boils down to whether or not the Browns take Trent Richardson and move on with Colt McCoy and I think they will.

you think or you hope, LOL.


cause in my mind, the browns would be absolutely silly not to take RG3 with their first pick, and the best available blindside tackle for him with their second 1st rounder. Cleveland will also want to sign someone (Dwayne Bowe, Desean Jackson) to put out there with their future big time guy (Greg Little), so there are definitly pieces in place in Cleveland to look alot better starting next year, ESPECIALLY after they snag RG3, which, sorry to say........they will.

Cleveland will look alot better starting next year, trust me. With either a more seasoned McCoy with another season under his belt and renewed confidence when they don't pick RG3 and stick it out with him, or with RG3, and a FA WR to pair with Greg Little, and hopefully that blindside protector he needs that the browns dont currently have. Either way, they will come to play next year.

God Damn do I wish we had 2 first rounders.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

you think or you hope, LOL.


cause in my mind, the browns would be absolutely silly not to take RG3 with their first pick, and the best available blindside tackle for him with their second 1st rounder. Cleveland will also want to sign someone (Dwayne Bowe, Desean Jackson) to put out there with their future big time guy (Greg Little), so there are definitly pieces in place in Cleveland to look alot better starting next year, ESPECIALLY after they snag RG3, which, sorry to say........they will.

Cleveland will look alot better starting next year, trust me. With either a more seasoned McCoy with another season under his belt and renewed confidence when they don't pick RG3 and stick it out with him, or with RG3, and a FA WR to pair with Greg Little, and hopefully that blindside protector he needs that the browns dont currently have. Either way, they will come to play next year.

God Damn do I wish we had 2 first rounders.

God is even laughing at that!!!

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

you think or you hope, LOL.


cause in my mind, the browns would be absolutely silly not to take RG3 with their first pick, and the best available blindside tackle for him with their second 1st rounder. Cleveland will also want to sign someone (Dwayne Bowe, Desean Jackson) to put out there with their future big time guy (Greg Little), so there are definitly pieces in place in Cleveland to look alot better starting next year, ESPECIALLY after they snag RG3, which, sorry to say........they will.

Cleveland will look alot better starting next year, trust me. With either a more seasoned McCoy with another season under his belt and renewed confidence when they don't pick RG3 and stick it out with him, or with RG3, and a FA WR to pair with Greg Little, and hopefully that blindside protector he needs that the browns dont currently have. Either way, they will come to play next year.

God Damn do I wish we had 2 first rounders.

I think.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I like your response to my comment. I agree with you. If the team wants RGIII they are going to have to move up ahead of the Browns somehow. But I think the cost will be too much. Thats the only area where we are different. and I don't think MS will trade because of it being too costly. But no one ever knows what will happen.

Personally I think they will go hard for a Vet in FA and if they haven't had to give up their 1st or 2nd round draft pick they might still try to trade up, but the trade up depends on at what cost. I also think depending on who they get as a Vet might depend on whether they think it's worth holding off until the 2nd round to take a QB or if they should look into trading up.

It only makes sense. If you get a really good Vet then you can pick up a later round QB and develope him. There will be a need to fill the Vet spot Beck leaves. and what do they do with Grossman? if he leaves or the team does not retain him then there will be another spot to fill. If the team doesn't get a quality QB in FA then they should go after RGIII.

It's going to be interesting come free agency time. I mean, everybody seems to be pointing at Matt Flynn as being the best free agent QB, and he might very well be. I'm just not sure exactly what that truly means though. He's had two outstanding games, but only two games! Dan Orlovsky, in relief of Curtis Painter, actually put up decent numbers and had a decent QB rating. His worst QB rating, 53.4% came against the Ravens defense. But, nobody is really talking about him. I haven't really watched him play, so I don't know if he'd really fit the mold for Shanahan's offense or not.

I just really think either way, the Redskins are almost forced to give up quite a bit for what most consider the best free agent QB this year, or to move up in the draft to get RG III or even Luck. Either way, I think we can agree that there is pressure on Mike Shanahan to bring in another starting quarterback for the Redskins this year. I'd rather the 'skins trade up if the Redskins feel they can make St. Louis an offer they can't refuse (saying that in my best Robert DeNiro voice.)

[celts32]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yeah I don't see any way we end up with RGIII at 6. Also, free agency starts long before the draft, so if we have any interest in a guy like Flynn, we'll have to pull the trigger before we see how the whole Luck/RGII and possibly Sam Bradford scenarios play out. Or maybe we just stay and 6th and reach for a guy like Tannehill... It's going to be a quite a ride.

If the plan is to stay at #6 and pick RG3 or Tannehill I can live with it since at least Tannehill is likely to be there.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by celts32

If the plan is to stay at #6 and pick RG3 or Tannehill I can live with it since at least Tannehill is likely to be there.

Me too. I'm hoping that this is our plan. If so, we should come home from day 1 of the draft with a quality new QB.