And with the 6th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the redskins select...........

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Weeden is not the option for us, we'd be better off starting Brady Quinn.

There are some really good WRs who will be available in the second round, I'm hoping for Nick Toon, he's got the name also.

and I'm ok with that. I'm just guessing the team will want to go QB and WR in the first two rounds. Depending on what they do in FA obviously will depend on what they do in the Draft. The problem is two really good QB's have decided to drop out which automatically moves the QB's below up a few notches. The team might not like having to draft one of those QB's so high but they might have to in order to get a more quality of play. Which I think goes back to what they do in FA, or it might not. Why not try to get Flynn and pick a 1st round QB... if RGIII is available then have them duke it out in preseason. Our QB position might become one of our strengths. or play the FA for the first few games and let the Rookie see how it is supposed to run with maybe throwing him in for a play or two here and there until he's ready to take over.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and I'm ok with that. I'm just guessing the team will want to go QB and WR in the first two rounds. Depending on what they do in FA obviously will depend on what they do in the Draft. The problem is two really good QB's have decided to drop out which automatically moves the QB's below up a few notches. The team might not like having to draft one of those QB's so high but they might have to in order to get a more quality of play. Which I think goes back to what they do in FA, or it might not. Why not try to get Flynn and pick a 1st round QB... if RGIII is available then have them duke it out in preseason. Our QB position might become one of our strengths. or play the FA for the first few games and let the Rookie see how it is supposed to run with maybe throwing him in for a play or two here and there until he's ready to take over.

I feel like Shanahan will get Foles after working with him, has a lot of similarities of Jay Cutler.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I feel like Shanahan will get Foles after working with him, has a lot of similarities of Jay Cutler.

Eeeeee... Really?

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Eeeeee... Really?

Cutler 6'3
Foles 6'5

Cutler strong arm
Foles Strong arm

cutler bad team his senior year, no bowl game
Foles bad team his senior year, no bowl game

Fairly mobile
Played in tough conferences

Cutler Junior and Senior Stats
147-241 10 TDs 5 Ints
273-462 21 TDs 9 Ints

Foles Junior and Senior Stats
286-426 20 TDs 10 Ints
387-560 28 TDs 14 Ints

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Cutler 6'3
Foles 6'5

Cutler strong arm
Foles Strong arm

cutler bad team his senior year, no bowl game
Foles bad team his senior year, no bowl game

Fairly mobile
Played in tough conferences

Cutler Junior and Senior Stats
147-241 10 TDs 5 Ints
273-462 21 TDs 9 Ints

Foles Junior and Senior Stats
286-426 20 TDs 10 Ints
387-560 28 TDs 14 Ints

No. The major knock on Foles is that he does not have a strong arm. On this criterion comparisons with Cutler fail.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

No. The major knock on Foles is that he does not have a strong arm. On this criterion comparisons with Cutler fail.

Maybe Scouts Inc isn't always right but I can't imagine that if they're wrong that the amount of arm strength wouldn't fall too far from the elite category.

Release/Arm Strength - 1 - Possesses a compact ¾ release. Flashes ability to change release point if necessary. Prototypical arm strength and can make all the necessary NFL throw as well as drive the ball down the field vertically.

The real knock is the mental part of his game.

Mental Makeup - 3 - "Comes from a majority spread offense although does take snaps from under center in pro-style sets. A one tempo quarterback that is very effective when pre-snap read is right and first option come available. Decision making becomes inconsistent when having to get to 2nd or 3rd option, though. Displays a good feel for game situations, however, poise is just average and shows some panic when protection breaks down. Lacks the necessary anticipation at this point and needs to see WR come open which can cause him to be late with throws. Flashes the toughness to sit in and make throw when knowing he's going to get hit.

1 = Exceptional 2 = Above Average 3 = Average 4 = Below Average 5 = Marginal

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

No. The major knock on Foles is that he does not have a strong arm. On this criterion comparisons with Cutler fail.

Umm read NFL scouts analysis on him, the majority say he has a strong arm. There definitely isn't scouts that say he has a weak arm.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Cutler 6'3
Foles 6'5

Cutler strong arm
Foles Strong arm

cutler bad team his senior year, no bowl game
Foles bad team his senior year, no bowl game

Fairly mobile
Played in tough conferences

Cutler Junior and Senior Stats
147-241 10 TDs 5 Ints
273-462 21 TDs 9 Ints

Foles Junior and Senior Stats
286-426 20 TDs 10 Ints
387-560 28 TDs 14 Ints

Vaguely remember Cutler playing for Vandy, but I do know that Foles doesn't have the arm Cutler has. Cutler has that rare part to his game that we saw with Favre where he'll just sling the ball effortlessly, Foles can't compete with that.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Vaguely remember Cutler playing for Vandy, but I do know that Foles doesn't have the arm Cutler has. Cutler has that rare part to his game that we saw with Favre where he'll just sling the ball effortlessly, Foles can't compete with that.

Based on what I've heard Cutlers arm is the elite of the elite. Knocking down any QB for not being as strong arm strength wise is like comparing a pitcher with a 103 mph fastball to one that regularly can throw up to a 100 mph and discounting the latter.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Based on what I've heard Cutlers arm is the elite of the elite. Knocking down any QB for not being as strong arm strength wise is like comparing a pitcher with a 103 mph fastball to one that regularly can throw up to a 100 mph and discounting the latter.

I was simply suggesting that comparing Foles to Cutler is crazy and wrong.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Vaguely remember Cutler playing for Vandy, but I do know that Foles doesn't have the arm Cutler has. Cutler has that rare part to his game that we saw with Favre where he'll just sling the ball effortlessly, Foles can't compete with that.

Doesn't mean his arm strength isn't good enough or he won't succeed.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Doesn't mean his arm strength isn't good enough or he won't succeed.

But it does mean that comparing him to Cutler is a little bit crazy.

There's going to be a big arm in every draft, it's not right to draw comparisons to the elite arms in the NFL each year.