2012 NFL Draft-QB Prospects (Chapter 5)

[chrisl13]

I feel like there is a huge drop off at qb after Luck and RG3. Tannehill and his broken foot isn't helping his cause. I think Weeden is good but his age sucks. I like Russell Wilson and Moore but their height is an issue. The rest of the qbs I see as career backups IMO. I wish Landry Jones and Matt Barkley were coming out.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by chrisl13

I feel like there is a huge drop off at qb after Luck and RG3. Tannehill and his broken foot isn't helping his cause. I think Weeden is good but his age sucks. I like Russell Wilson and Moore but their height is an issue. The rest of the qbs I see as career backups IMO. I wish Landry Jones and Matt Barkley were coming out.

Let me ask you this, are you any at all interested in Flynn?

I am because we need a Vet on this team. Even if it's just a replacement for Beck. I'd prefer Grossman get sent packing also, but I ask because Flynn is 26yo, Weeden is only 28. I agree no one wants their Rookie draft pick to be on the back end of their career age wise but I feel his age should make him more mature and a more stable football QB. In other words he probably should make better decisions on and off the field.

If Weeden fits what MS and KS want a QB to do then I'm happy with drafting him and letting the best QB play. This would also buy the team time to develope Weeden and still be able to pick up a QB next year if the market has more talented QB's in it.

[chrisl13]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Let me ask you this, are you any at all interested in Flynn?

I am because we need a Vet on this team. Even if it's just a replacement for Beck. I'd prefer Grossman get sent packing also, but I ask because Flynn is 26yo, Weeden is only 28. I agree no one wants their Rookie draft pick to be on the back end of their career age wise but I feel his age should make him more mature and a more stable football QB. In other words he probably should make better decisions on and off the field.

If Weeden fits what MS and KS want a QB to do then I'm happy with drafting him and letting the best QB play. This would also buy the team time to develope Weeden and still be able to pick up a QB next year if the market has more talented QB's in it.

I'm interested in any quarterback not named Rex Grossman or John Beck. But yes, I really like Flynn. The knock on him is that he may be the product of a system, but our system is similar to what they run in GB.The boy can ball but it's all about how much we would have to give up for him. If GB doesn't franchise him we should sign him as a free agent immediately, then in the draft you can get someone like Kellen Moore, Cousins, or even Weeden.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Let me ask you this, are you any at all interested in Flynn?

I am because we need a Vet on this team. Even if it's just a replacement for Beck. I'd prefer Grossman get sent packing also, but I ask because Flynn is 26yo, Weeden is only 28. I agree no one wants their Rookie draft pick to be on the back end of their career age wise but I feel his age should make him more mature and a more stable football QB. In other words he probably should make better decisions on and off the field.

If Weeden fits what MS and KS want a QB to do then I'm happy with drafting him and letting the best QB play. This would also buy the team time to develope Weeden and still be able to pick up a QB next year if the market has more talented QB's in it.

If we could get Flynn AND draft a good QB, I'd be for that. HOWEVER, we all know Flynn is going to be getting mad money. Do we really want to invest that much money into someone who has only played two games?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

If we could get Flynn AND draft a good QB, I'd be for that. HOWEVER, we all know Flynn is going to be getting mad money. Do we really want to invest that much money into someone who has only played two games?

and I'd say yes. No different then how it used to be, giving a drafted QB a ton of money and he hasn't played at all in the NFL. Atleast we know what Flynn can do and what he might be able to do in our system vs. RGIII whom we have no clue if he will do well or not.

But the key is there is a Rookie CAP so there would not be a ton of money dished out to both.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and I'd say yes. No different then how it used to be, giving a drafted QB a ton of money and he hasn't played at all in the NFL. Atleast we know what Flynn can do and what he might be able to do in our system vs. RGIII whom we have no clue if he will do well or not.

But the key is there is a Rookie CAP so there would not be a ton of money dished out to both.

The way I'm looking at it is with the Rookie Cap, it's much cheaper to invest in the high draft pick rookie than it would be the free agent. And with other teams in need of a QB (Seahawks, Miami, possibly Cleveland as well) if it was an either or thing, I would choose the draft pick. What if we invest a lot of money into Flynn, have him tied up for the next few seasons, and he completely bombs after year one?

I think ONLY if the deal is backloaded with incentive based money.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

The way I'm looking at it is with the Rookie Cap, it's much cheaper to invest in the high draft pick rookie than it would be the free agent. And with other teams in need of a QB (Seahawks, Miami, possibly Cleveland as well) if it was an either or thing, I would choose the draft pick. What if we invest a lot of money into Flynn, have him tied up for the next few seasons, and he completely bombs after year one?

I think ONLY if the deal is backloaded with incentive based money.

I understand where your coming from, and agree with you but the problem is no one knows how any QB will turn out. Heck look at McNabb, although he was on the decline (which is why I didn't want him), Hasslebach is probably a better example, was playing for one team and was not really lighting it up then went to Seattle and did awesome.

In the old days teams would pay the Vet decent money and the Rookie would get the payday. The only difference is it's flipped. So we give Flynn his payday and we still get RGIII at the top end of the Rookie CAP. Plus Allen has not really done what Cerrato has done in the past so I'd imagine we would get Flynn with a decent contract.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I understand where your coming from, and agree with you but the problem is no one knows how any QB will turn out. Heck look at McNabb, although he was on the decline (which is why I didn't want him), Hasslebach is probably a better example, was playing for one team and was not really lighting it up then went to Seattle and did awesome.

In the old days teams would pay the Vet decent money and the Rookie would get the payday. The only difference is it's flipped. So we give Flynn his payday and we still get RGIII at the top end of the Rookie CAP. Plus Allen has not really done what Cerrato has done in the past so I'd imagine we would get Flynn with a decent contract.

Like I said earlier. If there is a good way to land both without putting the 'skins in cap trouble for the next few years, then I'm fine with that.