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Old 01-18-2012, 09:05 AM   #1
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Re: Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

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Old 01-18-2012, 09:38 AM   #2
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Re: Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

Heard this on the radio this morning.

SOPA Sponsor Lamar Smith’s Campaign Website Violated Copyright Laws

I think rational people agree that something needs to be done to better enforce and control online piracy, however, the proposed law seems to give much more power then what’s actually needed. I don’t understand why people keep thinking giving more power to the federal govt is a good thing?

I have a good friend from Thailand that was on a visa while in America. She moved back to Thailand about 8 months ago and hates it partly because of internet there. She doesn’t have American internet, its severely restricted. Restriction is a bad thing.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:15 AM   #3
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You know how they could do something about piracy? Make their product cheaper. When you overcharge for your product, people are going to steal it. Greedy ass movie companies should understand this. In fact, I find it one of the most ironic and hypocritical things ever for the movie industry to complain about theft and piracy yet it's entire foundation came from the theft of Louis Lumiere's invention.


Even now, the movie industry steals people's ideas and stories to cash in on them. They are no different than any other major corporation when it comes to squeezing the people for every cent they can while showing little to no morals in how they accomplish it.

Man Who Says DreamWorks Stole 'Kung Fu Panda' Wins Round in Court - THR, Esq.

Seems hollywood had no problems stealing from this man and making billions of dollars off him either.



Piracy Isn’t Killing The Movie Industry, Greed Is | TorrentFreak


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The greed of the music studios hasn’t gone unnoticed by Paul Uniacke, head of the Video Ezy and Blockbuster video rental chains. “Studio greed is what’s holding back video-on-demand,” he said in response to the studios demands to pay huge sums of money upfront if they want to offer on-demand streams.



“Movie studios are still as arrogant as the music moguls were before digital downloads and piracy destroyed them. The only thing that’s protecting the movie studios (from more widespread illegal downloading) now is file size,” Uniacke added.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:54 PM   #4
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You know how they could do something about piracy? Make their product cheaper. When you overcharge for your product, people are going to steal it. Greedy ass movie companies should understand this. In fact, I find it one of the most ironic and hypocritical things ever for the movie industry to complain about theft and piracy yet it's entire foundation came from the theft of Louis Lumiere's invention.
This kind of sounds like the argument that girls who dress provocatively deserve to get raped.

Since you understand market pricing more so then those in charge at greedy ass movie companies, what would you recommend to the industry? Do you think they should be without the right to make the amount of money they do without fighting for legislation to crack down on piracy? Do you think people who steal entertainment products are less greedy then those who create them, if those who create them are “rich”?

Im all against SOPA, but it sounds like in addition to being against SOPA youre also against successful corporations?
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Re: Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

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Even now, the movie industry steals people's ideas and stories to cash in on them. They are no different than any other major corporation when it comes to squeezing the people for every cent they can while showing little to no morals in how they accomplish it.

Man Who Says DreamWorks Stole 'Kung Fu Panda' Wins Round in Court - THR, Esq.

Seems hollywood had no problems stealing from this man and making billions of dollars off him either.
And then the other shoe dropped .... Kung Fu Panda Lawsuit
(A jury found for Dreamworks - i.e., the plaintiff had failed to show by a preponderance of the evidence that DreamWorks used Mr. Dunne's "Zen Panda" idea in developing Kung-Fo Po. Although it may yet remanded for a new trial, a jury of LA City citizens - not the judge, not the big evil corporation, not the screaming mob - after reviewing the evidence said "Nope - DreamWorks didn't steal the idea".)

The point being that there are laws to protect intellectual property. They are necessary and folks are able to avail themselves of it when they believe themselves wronged. Just b/c someone alleges an idea, however, was stolen doesn't make it so. It's that shocking "Rule of Law" thing again.

As for SOPA, I am in complete agreement with mlpertert.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:36 PM   #6
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And then the other shoe dropped .... Kung Fu Panda Lawsuit
(A jury found for Dreamworks - i.e., the plaintiff had failed to show by a preponderance of the evidence that DreamWorks used Mr. Dunne's "Zen Panda" idea in developing Kung-Fo Po. Although it may yet remanded for a new trial, a jury of LA City citizens - not the judge, not the big evil corporation, not the screaming mob - after reviewing the evidence said "Nope - DreamWorks didn't steal the idea".)
Dear god did you even look at his work and the time line? He registered that back in the 90's man. Look at the characters he created and the ones that are in Kung Fu Panda. Of ****ing course they stole the guy's idea...lol Anybody in their right mind can see that and your notion that because some jury decided against him means they didn't steal it. Hey, they also thought OJ Simpson was not guilty of murder too!!! Really? That's your defense?...hahahaha

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You know how they could do something about piracy? Make their product cheaper. When you overcharge for your product, people are going to steal it. Greedy ass movie companies should understand this. In fact, I find it one of the most ironic and hypocritical things ever for the movie industry to complain about theft and piracy yet it's entire foundation came from the theft of Louis Lumiere's invention.


Even now, the movie industry steals people's ideas and stories to cash in on them. They are no different than any other major corporation when it comes to squeezing the people for every cent they can while showing little to no morals in how they accomplish it.

Man Who Says DreamWorks Stole 'Kung Fu Panda' Wins Round in Court - THR, Esq.

Seems hollywood had no problems stealing from this man and making billions of dollars off him either.



Piracy Isn’t Killing The Movie Industry, Greed Is | TorrentFreak
Free isn't cheap...it is a market-killer.

They long ago figured out that they charge "too much" but the question is when is "too much" not enough to get people to stop buying tickets. They haven't found the real spot where they are really charging "too much". Right now they are trying to legislate away the impending "too much" barrier that technology is quickly making a reality. Instead of reacting to a new market condition and figuring out how to change their business to continue to succeed they are trying to simply ignore the new condition and get it to go away. News flash...it isn't EVER GOING TO GO AWAY.
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:53 PM   #8
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:42 PM   #9
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Heard this on the radio this morning.

SOPA Sponsor Lamar Smith’s Campaign Website Violated Copyright Laws

I think rational people agree that something needs to be done to better enforce and control online piracy, however, the proposed law seems to give much more power then what’s actually needed. I don’t understand why people keep thinking giving more power to the federal govt is a good thing?

I have a good friend from Thailand that was on a visa while in America. She moved back to Thailand about 8 months ago and hates it partly because of internet there. She doesn’t have American internet, its severely restricted. Restriction is a bad thing.
Because the law was written by Hollywood studios and various record labels and they certainly aren't particularly unbiased. If they could a law written that forced everyone to pay them whenever they even heard a song, or heck, even hummed one they probably would...it's good business. The problem is that our idiot law-makers don't know enough about any of this to understand what they're actually sponsoring.. or care enough to understand.

Imagine how little they understand when it comes to banking laws and things like that if they aren't intelligent or educated enough to comprehend the actual consequences of something like this that isn't rocket science.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:59 PM   #10
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https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

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Thanks for the link.

Signed and I hope everyone takes a second to do the same.
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Thanks for the link.

Signed and I hope everyone takes a second to do the same.
Can't do it from work but will do so at home.
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Thanks for the link.

Signed and I hope everyone takes a second to do the same.
Done and done. It's the minimum we can do.
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I signed it but I used a fake name,I'm waiting to see how much spam starts showing up under that name.And yes I know Google says it wont be used but I dont trust them
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