Coaching Changes

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Give Ross some time. He's well on his way.

One of the Miami columnists - - probably either Dan LeBatard or Greg Cote - - said that Jeff Fisher chose the Rams over the Dolphins because Ross would not agree to give Fisher primacy in personnel decisions over Jeff Ireland. That colunmist said Ross chose the "wrong Jeff"...

Interesting perspective.

Ireland was a "Parcells guy" but seems to have transcended that regime with regard to the Dolphins.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

One of the Miami columnists - - probably either Dan LeBatard or Greg Cote - - said that Jeff Fisher chose the Rams over the Dolphins because Ross would not agree to give Fisher primacy in personnel decisions over Jeff Ireland. That colunmist said Ross chose the "wrong Jeff"...

Interesting perspective.

Ireland was a "Parcells guy" but seems to have transcended that regime with regard to the Dolphins.

What I heard was Fisher wanted Ross to be the tie-breaker and Ross said no, if Fisher and Ireland disagreed they'd go with what Ireland chose. That Roas did not want to be involved

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What I heard was Fisher wanted Ross to be the tie-breaker and Ross said no, if Fisher and Ireland disagreed they'd go with what Ireland chose. That Roas did not want to be involved

Why would you want a owner that had no background in coaching/player evaluation making the tie breaker? He would be better off flipping a coin. At least Ross was smart enough to stay out of it...lol

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why would you want a owner that had no background in coaching/player evaluation making the tie breaker? He would be better off flipping a coin. At least Ross was smart enough to stay out of it...lol

Or Fisher is old school (in the good way), which he is, and believed Ross would respond favorably to his maturity, methodology, and "magic" over Ireland's pedigree.

Ultimately Ross' decision to go "advantage Ireland" is probably the make or break decision of his first decade of ownership. Was Fisher's "underachievement" basically a result of facing the two greatest QBs in pro football history in every post-season for the past decade? Has Ireland learned enough from Parcells to achieve Parcells-like results? Or, if both Fisher and Ireland are future SB winning coaches/GMs...who wins first, who wins more?

IMO Ross failed. GTripp underestimates the importance of the decision. Ross may indeed be worse than Snyder at understanding the personality of a great pro football coach, which is not to be found in the typicall corporate executive both men came to know so well in their impressive careers.

IMO he's failed by 80/20 odds, but as the Zen master says...we'll see.

But it'd be nary a blip on the timeline graph of "Snyder's really bad decisions." Snyder can make bad decisions within bad decisions, he's gone all Leonardo Dicaprio/Inception up in this b!tch and we all need an epic "kick" to wake up from this ongoing nightmare!!!

[Player_HTTR]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why would you want a owner that had no background in coaching/player evaluation making the tie breaker? He would be better off flipping a coin. At least Ross was smart enough to stay out of it...lol

Ego/Power? If Ross is the tie-breaker they are closer to equals.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why would you want a owner that had no background in coaching/player evaluation making the tie breaker? He would be better off flipping a coin. At least Ross was smart enough to stay out of it...lol

It's what Jack Kent Cooke used to do

[SFREDSKIN]

I guess it's happening after all, good luck to Bradford.

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Rams to hire former Jets asst. Brian Schottenheimer as their offensive coordinator.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I guess it's happening after all, good luck to Bradford.

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Rams to hire former Jets asst. Brian Schottenheimer as their offensive coordinator.

Unfortunately this screams volumes to me. I doubt Marty Schottenheimer is going to coach for Tampa cause I'd have to imagine he'd want his son as OC. Unless father and son don't like each other.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Unfortunately this screams volumes to me. I doubt Marty Schottenheimer is going to coach for Tampa cause I'd have to imagine he'd want his son as OC. Unless father and son don't like each other.

I too doubt that Marty will get the Bucs' job - - but I think the reason will be the money that Marty will demand that the Bucs will prefer not to pay.

Maybe Marty told his son to take the job in St Louis even though he is still in the running for the job in Tampa for a far different reason than you suggest here.

MAYBE - - Marty looked at the Redskins situation and saw how effectively it was working out for father and son here and figured that the best way for his kid to make it in the NFL coaching milieu was to go it alone.

Just a thought...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

One of the Miami columnists - - probably either Dan LeBatard or Greg Cote - - said that Jeff Fisher chose the Rams over the Dolphins because Ross would not agree to give Fisher primacy in personnel decisions over Jeff Ireland. That colunmist said Ross chose the "wrong Jeff"...

Interesting perspective.

Ireland was a "Parcells guy" but seems to have transcended that regime with regard to the Dolphins.

And what's wrong with this type of set up? Seems to work well in Pittsburgh. IMO no coach should ever have total control over personnel. Coaching a team is hard enough. Ireland hasn't done a poor job. They have some good pieces to build with there.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

And what's wrong with this type of set up? Seems to work well in Pittsburgh. IMO no coach should ever have total control over personnel. Coaching a team is hard enough. Ireland hasn't done a poor job. They have some good pieces to build with there.

Just reporting what a Miami columnist - - it was indeed Greg Cote in the Miami Herald - - said about the situation there.

Obviously, he thinks less highly of Jeff Ireland and more highly of Jeff Fisher than you do. Time will tell how successful either will be in their current positions...