Redskins Name Ike Hilliard WR Coach

[MTK]

Originally Posted by diehard

You guys act like being an Hall of fame player automatically makes one a great coach.

Yep, and it's often the great players that don't even make the best coaches.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yep, and it's often the great players that don't even make the best coaches.

In fact, many of the greatest players have turned out to be less than average as a coach...

Otto Graham
Norm Van Brocklin
Art Shell
Mike Singletary
Forrest Gregg
Bart Starr
Tom Fears

I believe all of them are in the HoF... and none of them had "anything near distinguished" coaching careers.

Yes, Mike Ditka was a great player and he had a good run with the Bears. His time with the Saints - - not so much.

Yes, Bud Grant was a good player and had a good time as coach in Minnesota.

Yes, Dick LeBeau was a hell of a player and is a damned good DC.

Mike Munchak's first year as a HC has been promising...

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

In fact, many of the greatest players have turned out to be less than average as a coach...

Otto Graham
Norm Van Brocklin
Art Shell
Mike Singletary
Forrest Gregg
Bart Starr
Tom Fears

I believe all of them are in the HoF... and none of them had "anything near distinguished" coaching careers.

Yes, Mike Ditka was a great player and he had a good run with the Bears. His time with the Saints - - not so much.

Yes, Bud Grant was a good player and had a good time as coach in Minnesota.

Yes, Dick LeBeau was a hell of a player and is a damned good DC.

Mike Munchak's first year as a HC has been promising...

How could you forget the immortal Seahawks QB....Jim Zorn? Stay medium my friend.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

In fact, many of the greatest players have turned out to be less than average as a coach...

Otto Graham
Norm Van Brocklin
Art Shell
Mike Singletary
Forrest Gregg
Bart Starr
Tom Fears

I believe all of them are in the HoF... and none of them had "anything near distinguished" coaching careers.

Yes, Mike Ditka was a great player and he had a good run with the Bears. His time with the Saints - - not so much.

Yes, Bud Grant was a good player and had a good time as coach in Minnesota.

Yes, Dick LeBeau was a hell of a player and is a damned good DC.

Mike Munchak's first year as a HC has been promising...

To step out of football to reinforce this point, Magic Johnson was very candid years ago about his attempts at coaching. He admitted he just didn't have the patience w/players. Same thing for Jordan when he took to the floor w/the Wizards. While he wasn't the coach per se, having worked in the front office he was expected to mentor & guide the young guys. He had a lot of guys turn on him.

[redskin29633]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

In fact, many of the greatest players have turned out to be less than average as a coach...

Otto Graham
Norm Van Brocklin
Art Shell
Mike Singletary
Forrest Gregg
Bart Starr
Tom Fears

I believe all of them are in the HoF... and none of them had "anything near distinguished" coaching careers.

Yes, Mike Ditka was a great player and he had a good run with the Bears. His time with the Saints - - not so much.

Yes, Bud Grant was a good player and had a good time as coach in Minnesota.

Yes, Dick LeBeau was a hell of a player and is a damned good DC.

Mike Munchak's first year as a HC has been promising...

You left off our guy, Sammy Baugh.

[redskin29633]

Originally Posted by redskin29633

You left off our guy, Sammy Baugh.

Sammy Baugh went 7-7 in both 1960 and 1961 as head coach of the New York Titans in the old AFL. He coached again in 1964 as head man of the Houston Oilers and finished the season 4-10. That ended Sammy's less than stellar coaching career. The greatest Redskin player ever turned out to be average or below as a head coach. Oh but what a player he was, quarterback, tailback, defensive back, and punter!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redskin29633

Sammy Baugh went 7-7 in both 1960 and 1961 as head coach of the New York Titans in the old AFL. He coached again in 1964 as head man of the Houston Oilers and finished the season 4-10. That ended Sammy's less than stellar coaching career. The greatest Redskin player ever turned out to be average or below as a head coach. Oh but what a player he was, quarterback, tailback, defensive back, and punter!

Well to be fair, he didn't do so bad considering the Titans were a new franchise...but then again it was only an 8 team league

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by redskin29633

You left off our guy, Sammy Baugh.

Thanks for the addition. I had forgotten about the NY Titans; plenty of old AFL fans have also forgotten about the NY Titans.

And you are correct in adding Sammy Baugh to this list. He is in the Hall of Fame as one of the great QBs ever - - and had a great impact on the game of football because of his passing proficiency - - but was a mediocre coach.

[CrustyRedskin]

Didnt Forrest Gregg take the Bengals to a Super Bowl???

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Didnt Forrest Gregg take the Bengals to a Super Bowl???

I thought so.