Peyton manning cleared to play

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I agree completely. But the question/concern about Peyton Manning playing in for the Redskins is this: Can he play quarterback effectively in a west coast offense after being in one offense for so many years? Can Manning do what Mike Shanahan and Kyle Shanahan want him to do? Will the Shanahans attempt to alter the things that Peyton does best on the field and try and change him like how they did with McNabb? Will Mike Shanahan and Kyle Shanahan allow Peyton Manning to call his own plays like he had been doing for Indianapolis? What if the situation blows up like it did with McNabb?

This is an excellent question. The move with McNabb seemed good on paper, but he truly was shot as a QB and his fate in Minnesota proved that. Nobody knows if Manning is physically done. His neck has healed fully, but there are lingering doubts about his arm strength/velocity and I think one doctor has already said that it arm will not be what it used to be.

That being said, the man is still a genius and has the mental tools to command an offense. Can he find ways to win like Chad Pennington, even though he doesn't have the arm anymore? I think so. How many times do you really see a guy throw an 80 yard bomb that results in a touchdown? It happens but not often. If Peyton has decent velocity at 50 yards, he can make things happen. I just think his arm strength is too up in the air right now.

I dont want to see him end up being like Mark Brunell, who was a great QB, but by the time he got here his arm was basically shot. Thats why I beleived Manning would never come back if he couldn't be what he was before...We will see.

Peyton as a redskin gives us instant credibility, but at the same time, are we a team that is built to win right now? I don't think so. I think anybody who gets Manning will have him for one more season, possibly two, but we all could be wrong and Peyton could play for 4 or 5 more seasons. I hope he is healthy enough to do that because the NFL will be weird with Manning gone for good, and "that other great QB" (over-rated Tom Brady) won't be long to follow him, as he has already hinted at retirement a few times this past season...

[30gut]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I agree completely. But the question/concern about Peyton Manning playing in for the Redskins is this: Can he play quarterback effectively in a west coast offense after being in one offense for so many years? Can Manning do what Mike Shanahan and Kyle Shanahan want him to do? Will the Shanahans attempt to alter the things that Peyton does best on the field and try and change him like how they did with McNabb? Will Mike Shanahan and Kyle Shanahan allow Peyton Manning to call his own plays like he had been doing for Indianapolis? What if the situation blows up like it did with McNabb?

Good questions.
But I think the larger question is this: do you trust Mike/Kyle to recognize that PM has proven to be successful enough in his passing offense to warrant adapting their entire offense to more or less mirror Peyton's passing game?

Therefore I don't think it becomes a question of whether PM can learn the Kyle's playbook and verbiage or do what they want him to do.

I think Mike/Kyle would have to come to an understanding that if the sign PM they're signing on to install the 'PM passing offense'.

My thinking is that PM would teach the passing offense to Mike/Kyle/Matt LeFleur/Ike Hilliard.
They would then translate PM plays into their verbiage.
Peyton would have to learn to speak the language of our offense so he could call his plays and our players would understand; which imo would be no problem.
Then sit back and watch PM take charge of the passing game taking every rep from the start of OTA til the playoffs.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Good questions.
But I think the larger question is this: do you trust Mike/Kyle to recognize that PM has proven to be successful enough in his passing offense to warrant adapting their entire offense to more or less mirror Peyton's passing game?

Therefore I don't think it becomes a question of whether PM can learn the Kyle's playbook and verbiage or do what they want him to do.

I think Mike/Kyle would have to come to an understanding that if the sign PM they're signing on to install the 'PM passing offense'.

My thinking is that PM would teach the passing offense to Mike/Kyle/Matt LeFleur/Ike Hilliard.
They would then translate PM plays into their verbiage.
Peyton would have to learn to speak the language of our offense so he could call his plays and our players would understand; which imo would be no problem.
Then sit back and watch PM take charge of the passing game taking every rep from the start of OTA til the playoffs.

A better statement would be to sit back and watch Peyton take charge of the passing game for every rep from the start of OTAs to the final seconds of next years Super Bowl.

[Evilgrin]

Except for MS, why does Manning want to come here?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Except for MS, why does Manning want to come here?

He does'nt,fans want hime becuase the fans think everyone wants to come here and play.
If Peyton wants to extend his career he'll go somewhere warm and even he admits he plays his best in a dome,don't rule out Arizona just yet they can dump Cobb and they have everything in place if Peyton wanted to play.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

He does'nt,fans want hime becuase the fans think everyone wants to come here and play.
If Peyton wants to extend his career he'll go somewhere warm and even he admits he plays his best in a dome,don't rule out Arizona just yet they can dump Cobb and they have everything in place if Peyton wanted to play.

2. He's an indoor quarterback ?» Yeah, and Michelangelo was a ceiling painter. In his last two seasons, Manning was a better passer outside of Lucas Oil Stadium. In 2010, his passer rating was 98.0 on the road and 85.4 at home. In 2009, it was 112.6 on the road and 89.9 at home.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: Top five: Reasons to discredit Manning to D.C. doubters | Kevin Dunleavy | Cheers & Jeers | Washington Examiner

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

2. He's an indoor quarterback ?» Yeah, and Michelangelo was a ceiling painter. In his last two seasons, Manning was a better passer outside of Lucas Oil Stadium. In 2010, his passer rating was 98.0 on the road and 85.4 at home. In 2009, it was 112.6 on the road and 89.9 at home.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: Top five: Reasons to discredit Manning to D.C. doubters | Kevin Dunleavy | Cheers & Jeers | Washington Examiner

Passer ratings don't mean a thing an you know it but you are right ... an aging QB with possible injury problems would rather play in the cold in the N.East then indoors or at least where they can close the roof and most of the opponents have the same (or close to it)...my bad

[MTK]

lol I'm not a Dr. but, here's my medical opinion.

Hilarious.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol I'm not a Dr. but, here's my medical opinion.

Hilarious.

People are acting like this guy cleared Manning...

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

People are acting like this guy cleared Manning...

LOL you can go ahead and just say my name instead of people

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol I'm not a Dr. but, here's my medical opinion.

Hilarious.

Glad I could fill that prescription for you. That will be $10 for your co-pay.

[celts32]

It could just be that Peyton has not taken an official Colts physical exam recently. If irsay is going to spout that he has not been cleared by the Colts then he should tell everyone the date of the last failed Colts physical.

[SkinzWin]

Well everyone seems to very against what I have said, and maybe I am wrong on all accounts previously mentioned. As I said, I'm not a doctor. I just think it is hard to believe with the condition that he has and all the surgeries he has been through that he can't be 100% next season. At the end of the day I just don't want to take a risk on a 36 year old guy with a degenerative neck disease and three neck fusions to lead our football team.

[SmootSmack]

I think that's a bit much. No need to be calling him an idiot

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

When did Peyton get diagnosed with Spinal Stenosis? That is his brother, they never linked him to the disorder.