The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[celts32]

Originally Posted by 30gut

If the Rams draft RGIII they are essentially 'giving up' on Bradford.
There is no way the asking price for a passed over QB is gonna be anywhere near 2 first round picks.

It's not really the traditional "giving up" situation when there are entirely new decision makers in place and they are in position to get the #2 QB in the current draft. All it's saying is that they prefer RG3 and picks over Bradford. if we get Bradford we are in the game...regardless of the cost.

[GMScud]

Well, Shefter just said when Manning is released, the Redskins will have "all their eggs in the Peyton Manning basket" and WILL pursue him. Apparently also looking at Matt Flynn and Kyle Orton, as well as possibly moving up to #2 in the draft.

SmootSmack?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, Shefter just said when Manning is released, the Redskins will have "all their eggs in the Peyton Manning basket" and WILL pursue him. Apparently also looking at Matt Flynn and Kyle Orton, as well as possibly moving up to #2 in the draft.

SmootSmack?

Me? No, I've already told teams I'm only signing with the Ravens or Jets

[30gut]

Originally Posted by celts32

It's not really the traditional "giving up" situation when there are entirely new decision makers in place and they are in position to get the #2 QB in the current draft. All it's saying is that they prefer RG3 and picks over Bradford. if we get Bradford we are in the game...regardless of the cost.

Teams don't ditch a potential franchise QB because they 'prefer' another QB.

When a franchise makes the decision that they 'prefer' another QB they are telling everyone that they don't believe the QB the had could become a franchise QB.
That is the ultimate de-valution.

You can label it however you like.
But if the Rams draft RGIII it is what it is.

All this is moot though, because I don't think the Rams are gonna draft RGIII.
And if they do I would be more then happy for the Allen/Shanahan to steal Bradford from them on the cheap.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Teams don't ditch a potential franchise QB because they 'prefer' another QB.

When a franchise makes the decision that they 'prefer' another QB they are telling everyone that they don't believe the QB the had could become a franchise QB.
That is the ultimate de-valution.

You can label it however you like.
But if the Rams draft RGIII it is what it is.

All this is moot though, because I don't think the Rams are gonna draft RGIII.
And if they do I would be more then happy for the Allen/Shanahan to steal Bradford from them on the cheap.

I agree with one notable exception: if they select RG3 with the intent to trade him to the highest bidder. Then it doesn't say anything about Bradford.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Teams don't ditch a potential franchise QB because they 'prefer' another QB.

When a franchise makes the decision that they 'prefer' another QB they are telling everyone that they don't believe the QB the had could become a franchise QB.
That is the ultimate de-valution.

You can label it however you like.
But if the Rams draft RGIII it is what it is.

All this is moot though, because I don't think the Rams are gonna draft RGIII.
And if they do I would be more then happy for the Allen/Shanahan to steal Bradford from them on the cheap.

Who are you referring to when you say "franchise" because in St louis the decision makers who believed in Bradford are all gone?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by celts32

Who are you referring to when you say "franchise" because in St louis the decision makers who believed in Bradford are all gone?

Of course I'm refering to the current front office, GM, HC.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Of course I'm refering to the current front office, GM, HC.

So why does it say anything about Bradford if people who never drafted him in the first place would rather trade him for a bunch of picks and draft their own guy? Maybe the Redskins make them an offer they can't refuse. The current Rams front office is not emotionally invested in Bradford...at this point he's just another asset to them. I just don't think it's necessarily a negative on Bradford if they decide to trade him.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by celts32

So why does it say anything about Bradford if people who never drafted him in the first place would rather trade him for a bunch of picks and draft their own guy? Maybe the Redskins make them an offer they can't refuse. The current Rams front office is not emotionally invested in Bradford...at this point he's just another asset to them. I just don't think it's necessarily a negative on Bradford if they decide to trade him.

No team in any situation trades a QB they consider to be franchise caliber.
And if they draft RGIII and attempt to trade Bradford (i don't think they will) it says that the new staff doesn't view Bradford as a franchise caliber QB.
And if they don't view him as a franchise caliber QB they can't turn around and expect premium compensation for him.

If they draft RGIII its certainly a negative on his value.
To be clear I still think Bradford is a franchise caliber QB and I don't think they'll draft RGIII and try to trade Bradford.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by 30gut

No team in any situation trades a QB they consider to be franchise caliber.
And if they draft RGIII and attempt to trade Bradford (i don't think they will) it says that the new staff doesn't view Bradford as a franchise caliber QB.
And if they don't view him as a franchise caliber QB they can't turn around and expect premium compensation for him.

If they draft RGIII its certainly a negative on his value.
To be clear I still think Bradford is a franchise caliber QB and I don't think they'll draft RGIII and try to trade Bradford.

I hear what your saying but I don't really agree. I wouldn't mind the Redskins trying to make that case to get a better deal for Bradford though.