Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Wait. Luck had a mediocre line? I wouldn't say that at all.

I was not so much insinuating that. I was trying to make a point that you would have to actually look at their teams playing in each game to determine how they got their yrds. Was it designed or was it due to play break downs. Plus I think it depends on the talent they played.... was the QB forced to run more based off the talent of the defenses they faced.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Wait. Luck had a mediocre line? I wouldn't say that at all.

Two of his OL will most likely be drafted in the top 20. I wouldn't call that a mediocre line...lol

[SBXVII]

Is there any where we can go to look up what of the good QB's in history had a really good spiral ball vs. good QB's in history that didn't?

I ask because obviously I'm a Weeden fan and had heard that he will have success cause he throws a really tight spiral ball. Where other QB's will muscle the ball down the field having it wobble, Weeden's flies smooth through the air. It was discussed that where RGIII might be able to throw the ball farther on a windy day he might not due to the ball wobbling in the air vs. Weeden who can throw a tight spiral which will enable the ball to fly through the air easily.

I thought I had heard something like this yrs ago that you always want to look for a QB who throws a really tight spiral because they usually turn out to be really good QB's in the NFL.

[SBXVII]

Here something...

What Does A Tight Spiral Mean In Football? | LIVESTRONG.COM

A tight spiral is desirable under all conditions but it is a necessity in windy conditions. When the ball is thrown into the wind, it will knock the ball down, slow it down and impact its flight to the target. A tight spiral helps keep the ball on track. As the ball spins quickly, it has a better chance to remain on course. The receiver will have to adjust to the flight of the ball but not as much as when the quarterback does not throw a tight spiral

Read more: What Does A Tight Spiral Mean In Football? | LIVESTRONG.COM

NFL Quarterbacks
Former Miami Dolphin quarterback Dan Marino is considered one of the hardest throwers in NFL history. The Hall of Famer's tight spiral was the product of a quick and powerful release. Fellow Hall of Famer John Elway was also known for the power of his arm and his tight spiral. Elway threw the ball so hard that the point of the ball often left an impression on the receiver when he caught it. "The Elway Cross" was left on the chest of receivers when a tight spiral hit the receiver with full force.



Read more: What Does A Tight Spiral Mean In Football? | LIVESTRONG.COM

[SBXVII]

I have said I would like to see us get

Flynn
Weeden

But no matter what we do in FA, I'm thinking it would be neat to maybe grab two QB's in the draft. Perhaps Weeden and Foles. Both are tall enough and both throw tight spirals and reports are they can make all the throws.

[44Deezel]

2012 NFL Mock Draft: First Round Predictions and Analysis | Bleacher Report

He's saying it's only going to cost this year's first and third and next year's first. Don't see how that happens with Cleveland's picks.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

2012 NFL Mock Draft: First Round Predictions and Analysis | Bleacher Report

He's saying it's only going to cost this year's first and third and next year's first. Don't see how that happens with Cleveland's picks.

It will take at least 2 firsts and a 2nd...but probably more

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

2012 NFL Mock Draft: First Round Predictions and Analysis | Bleacher Report

He's saying it's only going to cost this year's first and third and next year's first. Don't see how that happens with Cleveland's picks.

Mike Shanahan and Jeff Fisher go way back. They'll work it out because they are former members on the 49ers coaching staff so they've known each other for years and years. Even if the Browns have more ammunition, it doesn't mean the Rams will accept it. What does it matter if Cleveland has two first round picks this year? The Rams can get a first rounder from the Redskins this year and next year. And next year's pick can be higher than a 19th pick depending on how the Redskins finish. The compensation for the 2nd overall selection is just about the same. Even if the Rams take the Browns pick, how much is the 19th overall pick really worth in conjunction with the 4th overall pick really worth?

Shanahan and Fisher will iron out a deal if they haven't done so already.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Mike Shanahan and Jeff Fisher go way back. They'll work it out because they are former members on the 49ers coaching staff so they've known each other for years and years. Even if the Browns have more ammunition, it doesn't mean the Rams will accept it. What does it matter if Cleveland has two first round picks this year? The Rams can get a first rounder from the Redskins this year and next year. And next year's pick can be higher than a 19th pick depending on how the Redskins finish. The compensation for the 2nd overall selection is just about the same. Even if the Rams take the Browns pick, how much is the 19th overall pick really worth in conjunction with the 4th overall pick really worth?

Shanahan and Fisher will iron out a deal if they haven't done so already.

Cleveland could throw in next year's first. That still puts us a first round pick behind them. I don't buy that Fisher makes the deal because him and Shanny are boys. I'd park RGIII in the AFC and take Cleveland for all they got

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Cleveland could throw in next year's first. That still puts us a first round pick behind them. I don't buy that Fisher makes the deal because him and Shanny are boys. I'd park RGIII in the AFC and take Cleveland for all they got

Well, if that's the case then we as Redskin fans better hope that Mike Holmgren is sold on Colt McCoy and he's trying to aid him in getting him weapons at receiver. Despite McCoy's on field struggles, he's still a very young quarterback and if the Browns gave up on him after only two seasons would be unfortunate. Even though they can outbid us for RG3, they very well may not. The Browns troubles on offense wasn't only with the quarterback. The running game, the receivers had struggled so everything doesn't fall on McCoy. For them to draft Robert Griffin III will not do anything for their offense. They must build around the QB they have already. In addition, Holmgren already stated that competition would be brought in for McCoy this offseason. That would mean that the don't attend to draft a QB high, but maybe draft Weeden, Foles or some other rookie QB or maybe sign a veteran QB through free agency to compete with McCoy to help improve his game.


So maybe, just maybe, RG3 will fall to the sixth pick.

[SmootSmack]

And Holmgren and Shanahan were on the Niners staff together so who's to say they won't work out a deal?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And Holmgren and Shanahan were on the Niners staff together so who's to say they won't work out a deal?

"Yeah sorry Holms. I know we really could use an extra first round pick. But the thing is Shanny and I go way back."

[DC Tailgate]

Is "WarpathDC" on Twitter anyone from here by chance?

[NC_Skins]

Soooo.....how's the weather for everyone this morning? (trying to avoid the elephant in the room)

Originally Posted by DC Tailgate

Is "WarpathDC" on Twitter anyone from here by chance?

No idea.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Soooo.....how's the weather for everyone this morning? (trying to avoid the elephant in the room)





No idea.

Stop wasting our taxpayer's dollars!!!

LOL!

Sorry I couldn't help myself, I thought I would add some humor.