Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

There are 2 question marks with Peyton Manning- is he healthy and how will he play after a year away from football? The first question is the easily most important.

The thing I don't get is - why are there no question marks being discussed with RGIII? Why is he the one qb that no one questions- with his talent and skill?

I would start off with - what usually makes a qb great in the nfl? And does he possess or have the likely potential to attain those qualities?

I'm not saying that he doesn't - I'm just saying I don't know. I'm just wondering what has a bunch of people convinced so early.

I hear you. I look at the last 10 QBs to win the Super Bowl and wonder if RGIII has similar traits. Maybe, but it's not glaringly obvious to me. I don't get the "lock" sentiment with him. That said, I'd love to have him, but not at an exorbitant cost.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I hear you. I look at the last 10 QBs to win the Super Bowl and wonder if RGIII has similar traits. Maybe, but it's not glaringly obvious to me. I don't get the "lock" sentiment with him. That said, I'd love to have him, but not at an exorbitant cost.

I think Griffin's physical profile and skill set are strikingly similar to Aaron Rodgers.
Similar build (almost the exact same build), both excellent runners (Griffin is obviously better), both good throwing on the move outside the pocket, both can evade/elude pressure/sacks, both are excellent deep ball passers, both throw with above average velocity.

I think Griffin's playing style is similar to these Super Bowl winning QBs:
Steve Young
Aaron Rodgers
John Elway
Roger Staubach
Brett Favre
Ben Roethlisberger

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I disagree with shanny losing his touch but I also disagree that he's safe with another 5 or 6 win season. IMO if we don't win at least 8 games then he should be gone.. Mike shanahan is a guy that u put trust in to be competitive and win games he's not Jim Zorn., heck even he won 8 games one year.

I agree.
I think the only ways the team goes below .500 and Mike Shanahan isn't on the hot seat are:
o draft and play a rookie QB

o sign/trade for a QB that plays well above yet have a losing season despite good QB play

[Brody81]

Peyton Manning Update - 12th Man Rising - A Seattle Seahawks Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.

Good Read...

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by Brody81

Peyton Manning Update - 12th Man Rising - A Seattle Seahawks Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.

Good Read...

I enjoyed that article. The writer has a little wishful thinking in the idea that Manning won't get signed before Flynn or other free agents. There will be a team that will take a chance on the Manning name\brand.

[skinsfaninok]

I disagree with shanny losing his touch but I also disagree that he's safe with another 5 or 6 win season. IMO if we don't win at least 8 games then he should be gone.. Mike shanahan is a guy that u put trust in to be competitive and win games he's not Jim Zorn., heck even he won 8 games one year.

[GridIron26]

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[GridIron26]

I'm not sure which thread is appropriate for this article, but since Griffin is big part in this article, I thought this one is good spot. I believe McShay made a valid point about not trading up for Griffin -

“Ultimately, I do think they’re inside that safe zone for where they’re going to be and for the potential of a team wanting to move up to get an elite player,” McShay says. “But also, if you’re sitting there at six, maybe they want to get that elite player. … They did draft very well last year. But even if they don’t get the quarterback, or if they address it in free agency, to me, nailing the draft again this year is going to be huge for not just the short-term, but more importantly, the long-term of this organization. And if they get a good deal to move back, they should do it, or if not, you sit there, you get a Morris Claiborne, who’s a shut-down corner, who can help take their defense to the next level"

McShay: Redskins have options in NFL draft - The Insider - The Washington Post

[Mechanix544]

I just talked to a friend of mine who knows a couple people around Redskins park, and he IS saying that if he were a betting man, Kyle Orton will be the starter for the redskins come season start, and that R. Tannehill will be sitting behind him learning the WCO ropes. He didnt know, however, if we planned on trading down, or if we nab him with pick #6, or trade up from the second round to nab him, maybe somewhere in the mid 20's.

*currently banging head into wall repeatedly*

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I just talked to a friend of mine who knows a couple people around Redskins park, and he IS saying that if he were a betting man, Kyle Orton will be the starter for the redskins come season start, and that R. Tannehill will be sitting behind him learning the WCO ropes. He didnt know, however, if we planned on trading down, or if we nab him with pick #6, or trade up from the second round to nab him, maybe somewhere in the mid 20's.

*currently banging head into wall repeatedly*

I'd have no problem with that myself.

I'd lean toward the plan being taking BPA at 6, and trading back into the first to take RT.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'd have no problem with that myself.

I'd lean toward the plan being taking BPA at 6, and trading back into the first to take RT.

Unless you can get a good price to trade up into the top three, I think this is probably the best way to play it.

I have a bunch of guys ranked ahead of Tannehill who were more accomplished college players, but I'd understand those who prefer what RT does well. His skill set is fairly unique. He doesn't really fit what we currently do, but we could become a Ryan Tannehill offense with very little tweaking of the offense. It would just require drastically different gameplanning with pretty much the same playsheet.

The infrastructure to be a good offense with Tannehill is already in place.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

My question is: Does anyone think we will try and trade up to get Luck? What would you offer for him?

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

My question is: Does anyone think we will try and trade up to get Luck? What would you offer for him?

I think if we did go for luck (who is the only player I'd trade up for) I'd guess that we'd have to swap 2012 firsts, give them our second, fourth, 2013 first and second. Probably more...

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

My offseason plan A: (offense)

Re-Sign Fred Davis (Franchise W/E)

Sign Ben Grubbs, Dwayne Bowe and possibly Eddie Royal

Send #6 pick, 2nd or 3rd rounder, and 2013 1st rounder to St. Louis or Minnesota

Draft RGIII

Use 4th rounder on Chris Rainey (plays slot and replace Banks)

If you can get Jabar Gaffney for Jeremy Jarmon Maybe Moss is worth a 4th or 5th rounder. (Wishful thinking.)

Use 2nd 4th on ROT

Our opening day offense would be:

QB RGIII
RB Helu
FB Young
WR Bowe
WR Hank
WR Gaffney
WR Royal
TE Davis
TE Cooley
LT Williams
LG Grubbs
C Lichtensteiger/Montgomery
RG Chester
RT Brown/Smith/Rookie

I can live with that.

[skinsfaninok]

Right now I'd want PM, RGIII, Luck, Flynn all ahead of orton

[los panda]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Right now I'd want PM, RGIII, Luck, Flynn all ahead of orton

i agree with the exception of peyton manning