Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[warriorzpath]

... So if the redskins want RGIII then they better have hops cuz they're going to need to jump up to get him.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Lotus, biffle just gave you your amen.

[SBXVII]

I'll look at everyone elses after I offer my decision that way I'm not influenced.

Peyton is better then RGIII on any given Sun. Now the big question... will he be healthy enough to start come Sept.? To me doesn't matter. He's healthy he starts, he's not.... see if he is getting any better if not see if he would like to stay in the NFL and help out my son Kyle Shanahan.

Meanwhile I'm able to keep all my draft picks, get some weapons to put around whoever is at QB.

Next year with a full compliment of draft picks if PM was unable to play and whoever the backup was failed to get the job done..... I go all in to get to the first pick or second pick in 2013. Next year we will be in a better position to go all in sense we would have basically built up an OL, added some weapons, and only have a real need for QB on offense. Defense is almost set as long as we take a FS, ILB, and CB in this years draft then there shouldn't be a major need for any one spot other then QB next year.

Besides the coaching staff really liked Barkely anyway.

[Schneed10]

Manning's contract would not be a concern from a cap standpoint given this team's recent commitment under Shanahan & Allen to rely on the draft moreso than free agency. Signing Manning to an incentive-laden deal would result in the team filling its needs through the draft, the way it should be done.

And even if the deal was an issue (which it wouldn't be), if Manning precludes us from going on a free agency spending splurge, isn't that a good thing? Did you guys just become Redskins fans last year or need I remind you of the lost decade of the 2000s?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The 49ers didn't make it to the NFC championship due to Alex Smith tearing it up. They made it on the back of their defense and their running game while asking Alex Smith not to blow it. Granted, he had a huge playoffs, but that's about it. That team was stacked. They didn't sell the farm for one guy. They've built that team from the draft and supplemented via FA. Which is what good teams do.

They have their QB. You gonna tell me they would get there with Rex Grossman? I know the strength of their team is defense and rushing attack, to say Alex Smith had nothing to do with it is crazy. They didn't have to sell the farm they were the worst team that year. We don't have that "luxury" of being the worst team so we need to take a risk and I feel RGIII is a risk worth taking. You don't, so we will just agree to disagree.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

They have their QB. You gonna tell me they would get there with Rex Grossman? I know the strength of their team is defense and rushing attack, to say Alex Smith had nothing to do with it is crazy. They didn't have to sell the farm they were the worst team that year. We don't have that "luxury" of being the worst team so we need to take a risk and I feel RGIII is a risk worth taking. You don't, so we will just agree to disagree.

The Bears got to the Super Bowl WITH Rex Grossman and they had less talent than the 49ers. Your point is now null and void.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I'd still make the trade if they wanted 2012 and 2013 1st, 2012 2nd or 3rd and 2013 3rd

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I'd still make the trade if they wanted 2012 and 2013 1st, 2012 2nd or 3rd and 2013 3rd

Ok Vinny. I'm glad you don't run this team anymore either. How's the job search coming along?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I'd still make the trade if they wanted 2012 and 2013 1st, 2012 2nd or 3rd and 2013 3rd

Yeah but you're not always the sharpest knife in the drawer either.

Don't you think you could find the next QB of the future sometime in the next 3-5 years or however long Manning is around for? You'd be able to acquire a guy at some point without trading up like a Cerrato style moron.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I'd still make the trade if they wanted 2012 and 2013 1st, 2012 2nd or 3rd and 2013 3rd

Wow. Just wow.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Aaron Rodgers fell into Green Bay's laps and this past season and the Saints game in the playoffs played like a franchise qb. But let's move on I'm not gonna convince you that we should trade for him and I'm not trying to and you won't convince me that we shouldn't.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Aaron Rodgers fell into Green Bay's laps and this past season and the Saints game in the playoffs played like a franchise qb. But let's move on I'm not gonna convince you that we should trade for him and I'm not trying to and you won't convince me that we shouldn't.

If you can't discuss intelligently, go to ES. We keep hearing you repeat that you believe the Skins should take the risk and trade up for Griffin, but you're not giving one iota of logical reasoning as to why that direction makes the team better than acquiring Manning in free agency.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If you can't discuss intelligently, go to ES. We keep hearing you repeat that you believe the Skins should take the risk and trade up for Griffin, but you're not giving one iota of logical reasoning as to why that direction makes the team better than acquiring Manning in free agency.

The case for trading up to 2 for Griffin is as follows:

Griffin would be a first overall pick in any other year. He can't be a first overall pick this year because Andrew Luck is in this draft. The Rams would be foolish to not draft Griffin, but if they are willing to trade that pick, better you be the team to get it than someone else.

If all that is true, then yeah, you'd go get Griffin because he's a once in every few years prospect.

I personally am rejecting that his pre-draft value is that high...that you can't get him with the 3rd or 4th pick. I think the world of him as a prospect, but I wouldn't even take him at 6th if I had a healthy Peyton Manning on my roster.

[GTripp0012]

Franchise quarterbacks are fun. Until 2012 happens, Alex Smith both is and is not a franchise quarterback, depending on the argument you are trying to make. And even better, you don't have to believe one or the other. You can just use the term or reject the term as it suits you.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Franchise quarterbacks are fun. Until 2012 happens, Alex Smith both is and is not a franchise quarterback, depending on the argument you are trying to make. And even better, you don't have to believe one or the other. You can just use the term or reject the term as it suits you.

All you have done is highlighted yet another example of the equivocation fallacy.