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Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

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Sign Peyton Manning 43 32.82%
Trade up for RGIII 88 67.18%
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Old 02-11-2012, 05:27 PM   #1
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Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

Trading up and drafting RG3 is a wiser move than signing Manning. With Manning, you would have to give not only full control of the offense, but tweak the offense and mix things in with the playbook he used in Indy and incorporate those plays in conjunction to Mike Shanahan's plays. Also, Kyle Shanahan while being the offensive coordinator would still have that role, but Manning would be calling his own plays in the huddle.

Then there's the factor that not one free agent signing or trade has done Washington any good when it comes to the QB position. Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell, Todd Collins, and Donovan McNabb only took the Redskins so far. That would tell anyone that you can't win playoff games and Super Bowls with QBs from other teams. In today's National Football League, you have to follow the formula of other teams and draft your own QB in the first round. There those QBs who were selected in the first round of the draft who guide their teams to the playoffs year in and year out. Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Big Ben, Aaron Rogers, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, a few others were first round draft choices. The only exception is Jay Cutler, who in 2010 took the Bears to the NFC title game but he wasn't drafted by them.

The Redskins must duplicate the usual formula in this era of pro football. While signing yet another free agent quarterback would make me roll my eyes and frown, taking either Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III would put a huge smile on my face. Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan must trade up even if it includes giving up next year's first rounder in addition to this year's to land the quarterback that the Redskins need.
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Trading up and drafting RG3 is a wiser move than signing Manning. With Manning, you would have to give not only full control of the offense, but tweak the offense and mix things in with the playbook he used in Indy and incorporate those plays in conjunction to Mike Shanahan's plays. Also, Kyle Shanahan while being the offensive coordinator would still have that role, but Manning would be calling his own plays in the huddle.

Then there's the factor that not one free agent signing or trade has done Washington any good when it comes to the QB position. Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell, Todd Collins, and Donovan McNabb only took the Redskins so far. That would tell anyone that you can't win playoff games and Super Bowls with QBs from other teams. In today's National Football League, you have to follow the formula of other teams and draft your own QB in the first round. There those QBs who were selected in the first round of the draft who guide their teams to the playoffs year in and year out. Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Big Ben, Aaron Rogers, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, a few others were first round draft choices. The only exception is Jay Cutler, who in 2010 took the Bears to the NFC title game but he wasn't drafted by them.

The Redskins must duplicate the usual formula in this era of pro football. While signing yet another free agent quarterback would make me roll my eyes and frown, taking either Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III would put a huge smile on my face. Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan must trade up even if it includes giving up next year's first rounder in addition to this year's to land the quarterback that the Redskins need.

So winning 10 plus games and possible playoff run isn't worth that huh?
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So winning 10 plus games and possible playoff run isn't worth that huh?
Manning is coming off a neck surgery that sidelined him for all of the 2011 season. He wouldn't have the level of QB protection in Washington or the elite level of receivers that he had in Indianapolis. While Manning offers a high reward, he also offers a very high risk. One helmet to helmet hit could injure his neck again.

And there's no guarantee that he'll win ten games for the Redskins. Hankerson, Moss, Gaffney, and F. Davis aren't on par with the level of the receiving corps that Peyton Manning had in Indianapolis.

And then there's the potential with a power struggle. Being a 4 time NFL MVP, Manning will want to call his own plays like he's been doing. Will Mike Shanahan and Kyle Shanahan put their egos aside and let Manning do things he does best? Or will they try and micro manage Manning and make him a Shanahan robot like they tried to do with McNabb?


Peyton is on the decline. While he'll still be effective, he so professional and so good that he doesn't fit the Shanahan pedigree for a QB. Manning would be slow rolling out to his left or to his right.

It's better to let the idea of signing Manning die. We need to draft our QB in the 1st round of the draft like Baltimore, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, New York Giants, New York Jets, and San Francisco did.

Also, Peyton Manning would only offer a short term solution. He's 35-36 years of age, and he's not getting any younger. After the Pop Warner level of quarterback play we witnessed last season with John Beck and Rex Grossman, Allen and Shanahan would want a long term solution. RG3 is that long term solution not because he's dynamic and athletic, but because he's 22 years old with greatness awaiting him at the next level.

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The Redskins must duplicate the usual formula in this era of pro football. While signing yet another free agent quarterback would make me roll my eyes and frown, taking either Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III would put a huge smile on my face. Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan must trade up even if it includes giving up next year's first rounder in addition to this year's to land the quarterback that the Redskins need.
Not waisting more then 1 draft pick on said player would put the big smile on my face if we could land one of these, but it's doubtfull. So trading back, continueing with last years fabulous draft by trading back to aquire more picks in order to not only get valuable pieces but to help build up our back up pool.
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Not waisting more then 1 draft pick on said player would put the big smile on my face if we could land one of these, but it's doubtfull. So trading back, continueing with last years fabulous draft by trading back to aquire more picks in order to not only get valuable pieces but to help build up our back up pool.
Stock piling draft picks while not a bad idea, still won't cure the Redskins most pressing need. Quarterback is the most pressing need. I disagree that it's doubtful that the Redskins can get Luck or RG3. I will admit, Luck may be out of reach. But Rg3 isn't. For one Mike Shanahan and Rams coach Jeff Fisher go back to their days with the 49ers. So, they know each other well. If Mike Shanahan is offering the Redskins 6th pick in the draft in addition to a Redskins 1st round selection in 2013, then they can agree to a trade in order for Washington to move up to 2nd in the draft. The Rams can more than likely still come away with Justin Blackmon or Matt Khali at the 6th pick. And in exchange, the Redskins can come away with RG3 with the second pick.

Back in 2004, the Giants offered San Diego a boat load of draft selections to land Eli Manning. After leading the Giants to two super Bowls, I'd say that decision to trade up was a good one for the G-men.

I think Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan know that they have quite a problem at quarterback. Both of them are great football men. I'm sure they know what important moves they must make in order to better the Redskins.

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