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Old 02-11-2012, 09:40 PM   #1
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Clayton's career is to know these things. He studies it, speaks endlessly with experts in the field. It's what pays his bills.
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Old 02-11-2012, 09:46 PM   #2
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Clayton's career is to know these things. He studies it, speaks endlessly with experts in the field. It's what pays his bills.
Yeah, but it only got him into the HOF. Clearly his opinion pales in comparison to Random Internet Hotshot who thinks his guesses are facts.
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Clayton's career is to know these things. He studies it, speaks endlessly with experts in the field. It's what pays his bills.
Why? He's not a analyst nor a draft expert so why does he need to know these things to report?

If he does these things, I'll cut him some slack then. That said, even Morocco Brown and Scott Campbell had to get instruction/guidance from Mike in regards to the characteristics they looked at regarding their system. If a professional scout team couldn't do it, not sure I buy that Clayton can either. Not unless they've broken it down to him.
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Why? He's not a analyst nor a draft expert so why does he need to know these things to report?

If he does these things, I'll cut him some slack then. That said, even Morocco Brown and Scott Campbell had to get instruction/guidance from Mike in regards to the characteristics they looked at regarding their system. If a professional scout team couldn't do it, not sure I buy that Clayton can either. Not unless they've broken it down to him.
Perhaps you should study what real reporters actually do with their days.

Of course he needs to try to know such things if he is to be a good reporter.
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Perhaps you should study what real reporters actually do with their days.

Of course he needs to try to know such things if he is to be a good reporter.
I gathered he didn't just sit around in some office scanning forums/twitter/fax/email/phone for news alerts. If he's that knowledgeable, why don't they use him as a analyst?


SO why is I've heard that NFL scouts say that guys like Mel Kiper and Todd McShay don't know shit?


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"Most people at my level feel he is a joke," a veteran NFL scout told us via e-mail. "People in the league respect Kiper. He is not a true scout but he does work at it. A lot of his info he gets from connections in the league, and over the years he has made quite a few. When he was younger he used to burn some bridges. He doesn't do that any more."

So what about McShay?

"McShay does not have any good connections," the source opined. "Higher-ups in the league think he is an arrogant asshole. A know-it-all. And he really knows nothing. Whatever he says about a quarterback, take it to the bank, it will be the opposite. Remember, last August he stated that Jevan Snead was better thanColt McCoy and would get drafted in the top five. He has yet to publicly retract that statement.
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I gathered he didn't just sit around in some office scanning forums/twitter/fax/email/phone for news alerts. If he's that knowledgeable, why don't they use him as a analyst?


SO why is I've heard that NFL scouts say that guys like Mel Kiper and Todd McShay don't know shit?
Nobody said that folks like Clayton know everything. If people like him did, they'd be GM's, not TV reporters.

But, on the other hand, they still put out a lot of effort, so just dismissing them is as disrespectful as it is foolish.

And economics dictate that there can only be so many analysts and so many reporters.
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Nobody said that folks like Clayton know everything. If people like him did, they'd be GM's, not TV reporters.

But, on the other hand, they still put out a lot of effort, so just dismissing them is as disrespectful as it is foolish.
I said it more or less being a smart ass since kid has been riding my balls this whole thread. Had I known the Clayton E-knight crew was going to rush in to save the day, I would have kept my mouth shut...lol
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