Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[30gut]

Originally Posted by biffle

As for the 30gut thing earlier, I made an attempt to explain to him how he was completely misusing a statistic,

You made a horrible failed attempt to make a strawman argument.

Its not misuse to quote a well known stat.

However its kinda bad form to make false assumptions and claims then turn around and claim that your false assumptions represent my point.

I don't understand how you can get this:

Originally Posted by biffle

The real world doesn't work that way. Griffin has virtually nothing in common with Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell, whether you're looking at backgrounds, education, skillset, production, character or temperments. Not to mention, Griffin will be stepping into a situation that will likely bear little resemblence to what the other 2 walked into.

So, to suggest the former's chances of success decline by some percentage because of the failures of the latter two is really wrongheaded, at absolute best.

From this:

Originally Posted by 30gut

With Griffin the gamble is the same as with any rookie QB where historically the success rate is right around 50/50 its even lower when using the 'franchise' QB or 'elite' QB label as the measure of success.

Without thinking that people will view your posts as somewhat disingenuous.

[WaldSkins]

This would have been a better thread if I was giving the option to trade up for luck or manning. I'd give up the picks for luck but not for rg3