DCT: Shanahan Leading Redskins in Right Direction

[Lotus]

Kyle's bizarre play calling: a reverse to open the game

Kyle's problematic play calling: not sticking with the run enough to make defenses honest

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Kyle's bizarre play calling: a reverse to open the game

Kyle's problematic play calling: not sticking with the run enough to make defenses honest

I'll agree with you on the early reverses, those are a little odd. I think the run game thing has more to do with talent/production than it does preference. Our YPC was awful until later in the season. Hightower was under 3.9 YPC, Helu wasn't much better early on. Torrain was abysmal. As the season went on and they found different ways to get Helu/Royster the ball (inside and outside pitches) the YPC increased.

He does get pass happy but with better talent I think that will be a strength of our offense rather than a cause for concern.

[Alvin Walton]

Kyle has never coached a team that has made it to the playoffs.
He's still a pup.
I'd rather have someone with a little more gristle on his bones.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Kyle has never coached a team that has made it to the playoffs.
He's still a pup.
I'd rather have someone with a little more gristle on his bones.

So again, you'd rather have someone with a different birth certificate. What does that have to do with his ability to coach effectively?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by paintrain

so again, you'd rather have someone with a different birth certificate. What does that have to do with his ability to coach effectively?

experience

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

experience[/i]

Mike Shanahan has experience, and he oversees his son. Honestly, I feel that his age has nothing to do with it, and if MS is letting his son run a muck, then it is also on MS.

Personally, my beef with Kyle was that he called the game as though he still had Schaub and Johnson, instead of Grossmand and Gafney. I also hated that he never stuck with the run early on in the season. I think his gamecalling improved later in the season, when it was too late.

Our team needs talent and needs leadership from their head coach. I think Kyle learned through the season and I hope with improved talent he can do what he did in Houston. I really don't see the advantage of getting rid of him and bringing in a new play caller.

[Alvin Walton]

So you basically said Kyle doesn't need experience because his dad has it.
Thats a setback for us.
We've been losing for long enough.
The future is now.......

[TexSkins]

As a Texans fan, I've seen what Kyle can do with a talented offense. The dude started with a lazy ass in McNabb & Grossman/Beck. Give him some weapons and he will produce. The Skins rush offense was stunted since defenses put 8 in the box.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

So you basically said Kyle doesn't need experience because his dad has it.
Thats a setback for us.
We've been losing for long enough.
The future is now.......

I am saying that if Kyle's "inexperience" is a problem, I think MS can step in and help out. I don't think experience is a problem with Kyle, and I don't think it has been a setback.

What has been a setback is wasting picks on a washed up QB, not securing a QB of the future, pin your second season on the arm of two guys who are backups at best, going into a d*ck swinging contest with a guy that should've been cut (AH) in the first place, not adjusting your playcalling to the talent you have, building the offense from the get go instead of focusing on a defense, etc., etc., etc.

[DC Tailgate]

My mistake guys (and possible gals?), didn't know about the blog posting rule. Really wasn't trying to 'promote' my blog, just wanted some good feedback, which I have gotten for the most part. Figured it would have been safer to post a Redskins blog verses something with the Nationals.

I'll stick a link in the signature - and believe me, I'll be around

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DC Tailgate

My mistake guys (and possible gals?), didn't know about the blog posting rule. Really wasn't trying to 'promote' my blog, just wanted some good feedback, which I have gotten for the most part. Figured it would have been safer to post a Redskins blog verses something with the Nationals.

I'll stick a link in the signature - and believe me, I'll be around

No worries.

[GTripp0012]

I liked the article. I will let the peanut gallery handle the fine details of how much I agree or disagree.

I think Kyle Shanahan has a long coaching career ahead of him. I think Mike has held Kyle back at least as much if not more than Kyle has held Mike back.

With that said, I don't think he's a good offensive coordinator. I don't think it's a qualification issue, and I think while he might get better as he gets more experience, Kyle runs a very limited offensive system. I've said many times there is good theory behind it, but there are no seeds of being an offensive genius or whatever label you'd put on the best playcallers in the game. Playcalling is generally overrated anyway, but when you see the week-to-week gameplans, it's hard to think that an influx of talent is going to open things up.

In terms of the passing game, what Kyle does call, he seems to understand quite well. A defense requires a certain level of talent to stop what the Redskins have in the passing game. If they have it, you see games like the San Francisco one or either Philadelphia one where clearly, the Redskins aren't going to move the ball at all. Once you have Kyle's number, he typically needs more than 3 hours to figure out how to work his way out of the clutches of the defense.

I'm not going to rank Kyle among other offensive coordinators, as there are some other poor ones out there, I just think that if you assume we're going to see something different in 2012 from the offense than we saw in 2011, I think we're just misunderstanding what Kyle wants to do with his offense. Kyle wants to create chances for clean throws down the field, and he generally takes the majority of the mental work out of the hands of the QB. Having a rookie under center next year isn't going to change that, it's going to make the Redskins even more of a system team.

[irish]

I just dont buy the "Kyle is inexperienced" line. He has been in coaching since 2003 and has 3 seasons as an offensive coordinator. Kyle may be many things but inexperienced isnt one of them.

[The Goat]

Defending Kyle, on any level at this juncture, is sure sign of kool-aid coming out the nose.

For much of the season "his" offense looked unprepared on game days. There was no tempo. Play-calling was often as bad as any in the league, whether it was abandoning the run with an extremely mistake prone QB or sticking with the run...the same run...over and over until the defense didn't even have to guess.

Kyle is (still) here for one reason...his last name.

[irish]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Defending Kyle, on any level at this juncture, is sure sign of kool-aid coming out the nose.

For much of the season "his" offense looked unprepared on game days. There was no tempo. Play-calling was often as bad as any in the league, whether it was abandoning the run with an extremely mistake prone QB or sticking with the run...the same run...over and over until the defense didn't even have to guess.

Kyle is (still) here for one reason...his last name.

It wasnt that his offense was unprepared, it was that he had no talent on offense to work with.