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Sign Peyton Manning 43 32.82%
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:24 PM   #1
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Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

I've seen video clips of Tannehill. He's very good. He has good size, a strong arm, and he can scramble very well. He has a quick release. His game is very effective and in time he would benefit any NFL offense. But he's a project at best. I see him getting drafted late in the first round at the earliest. In the case that the Redskin sign Peyton Manning, and I don't think Allen and Shanahan will, then Tannehill being drafted would make sense. But everyone isn't Tom Brady. Meaning if success is gained in today's NFL, then you have to draft your QB in the first round, and that means sidestepping Manning and drafting RG3.
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:29 PM   #2
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I've seen video clips of Tannehill. He's very good. He has good size, a strong arm, and he can scramble very well. He has a quick release. His game is very effective and in time he would benefit any NFL offense. But he's a project at best. I see him getting drafted late in the first round at the earliest. In the case that the Redskin sign Peyton Manning, and I don't think Allen and Shanahan will, then Tannehill being drafted would make sense. But everyone isn't Tom Brady. Meaning if success is gained in today's NFL, then you have to draft your QB in the first round, and that means sidestepping Manning and drafting RG3.
I don't see how we could not have a Favre/Rodgers situation where we draft a QB late in the first round and have him sit in the bench and learn from a legend. I have no basis to compare Tannehill as a prospect vs. Rodgers as a prospect, nor am I saying that Tannehill is the same prospect as Rodgers was coming out. However, I don't see anything wrong with growing our own QB and still get a good (possibly great) FA like Manning.
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I don't see how we could not have a Favre/Rodgers situation where we draft a QB late in the first round and have him sit in the bench and learn from a legend. I have no basis to compare Tannehill as a prospect vs. Rodgers as a prospect, nor am I saying that Tannehill is the same prospect as Rodgers was coming out. However, I don't see anything wrong with growing our own QB and still get a good (possibly great) FA like Manning.
It would be nice to have a young QB learning from Manning. I think they need to have 3 QBS on the active roster this year. Manning, Grossman (ugh), Rookie
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It would be nice to have a young QB learning from Manning. I think they need to have 3 QBS on the active roster this year. Manning, Grossman (ugh), Rookie
While I agree with you, why Grossman and not Beck? Grossman is a FA and we've seen his 'best'. Why not just keep Beck in his final year of the contract, give him a full offseason and have him as the #3 QB?

Don't get me wrong, Beck sucks but you don't bring in Manning and draft a QB early with the intention that your 'other' backup is going to get much playing time.
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While I agree with you, why Grossman and not Beck? Grossman is a FA and we've seen his 'best'. Why not just keep Beck in his final year of the contract, give him a full offseason and have him as the #3 QB?

Don't get me wrong, Beck sucks but you don't bring in Manning and draft a QB early with the intention that your 'other' backup is going to get much playing time.
I disagree. Manning is an injury risk, and if you acquire a young QB they're most likely going to need some time to develop.

Depth chart should be Manning/Rex/drafted QB.

EDIT: I should have prefaced this post. That should be the depth chart as long as the Skins are in contention, obviously if they're mathematically eliminated it would be wiser to give the young QB some live PT.

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I disagree. Manning is an injury risk, and if you acquire a young QB they're most likely going to need some time to develop.

Depth chart should be Manning/Rex/drafted QB.

EDIT: I should have prefaced this post. That should be the depth chart as long as the Skins are in contention, obviously if they're mathematically eliminated it would be wiser to give the young QB some live PT.
Manning is no more of an injury risk than any other QB. The neck isn't an issue, it's the nerves in his arm that are preventing him from being considered 100%. The neck has been fine since the fall.

I think if we sign Manning/draft a QB in the 2nd round, we are not doing so with the intent of him being a 3-4 year project that we hope develops. The plan must be to bring him in with the intention that he's ready sooner rather than later so IF Manning is injured, he can play immediately.

To clarify, Beck would be 3rd string, not the primary backup in my previous query. If we're going with a vet backup I'd rather have Henne than either Rex or Beck.
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Manning is no more of an injury risk than any other QB. The neck isn't an issue, it's the nerves in his arm that are preventing him from being considered 100%. The neck has been fine since the fall.
Correction on one point: Manning may not be any more of an injury risk because of his cervical fusion, but he's a 36+ year old NFL starting quarterback. That's a group that, in it's entirety, is two guys: Manning and Hasselbeck. All else equal, Manning is more of an injury risk than 30 other starting QBs based on his age alone.

I still think Manning is capable of throwing together back to back 16 start seasons, but I would not predict that he will.
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While I agree with you, why Grossman and not Beck? Grossman is a FA and we've seen his 'best'. Why not just keep Beck in his final year of the contract, give him a full offseason and have him as the #3 QB?

Don't get me wrong, Beck sucks but you don't bring in Manning and draft a QB early with the intention that your 'other' backup is going to get much playing time.
I would take Rex instead of Beck simply because Beck can't win. Just for back up if Peyton goes down we need someone to move the ball down the field for a field goal.
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While I agree with you, why Grossman and not Beck? Grossman is a FA and we've seen his 'best'. Why not just keep Beck in his final year of the contract, give him a full offseason and have him as the #3 QB?

Don't get me wrong, Beck sucks but you don't bring in Manning and draft a QB early with the intention that your 'other' backup is going to get much playing time.
Your right but the concept is at some point PM is going to have to be replaced and you don't want to be relying on the 4th round pick you took 2-3 yrs ago.

I'll say this... if RGIII falls to us at #6 we take him no matter if we have PM or not. Otherwise I'd look to trade back maybe mid round in order to pick up another draft pick and take the QB we like out of the 2nd best. Depending on what we do WR wise in FA I might even take a second round or third round QB and call it a day. Why? because as much as you guys want to seperate the QBs as being better then each other I see only small differences. Luck obviously stand out. RGIII is a slight drop off. and from there the rest to me are all about the same ball park with only a slight drop off from RGIII, (Tannehill, Foles, Weeden, T.Wilson, and Cousins). I watched a little film on Osweiler over the weekend and I'm actually impressed with him as well. He's gangly but he seems to scramble/run well, He has a nice long ball, and he can see the whole field because he's like 6ft-8in.

Maybe dump both Grossman and Beck, pick up PM, and take two Rookies in the draft. Pm will take up one roster spot, one of the rookies can take up the other and the last can be on the PS. By the way I'd dump Crompton also. This way we have one Vet, two rookies. Maybe Weeden because of his age makes him more mature and another young rookie QB.
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