Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[skinsfaninok]

Just because Manning may be interested in playing for Houston doesn't mean he doesn't want to Here either

[TexSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Just because Manning may be interested in playing for Houston doesn't mean he doesn't want to Here either

Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by TexSkins

Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender

Hmmm..... and the Skins are not that? the Skins played better then the year before, the OL got better by the end of the year creating nice holes for the RB to run through, there was better protection, and we beat the SB champs twice. <- I now that may not mean much but it shows the Skins can contend.

3rd year in the same system, OL understanding their assignments better, combined with a really good run game, and I don't care what anyone says our defense was one of the best limiting teams to 20 or less points most of the time. Thats what you want. Look at the Patriots they gave up the most yrds all year but teams had a hard time scoring on them. Thats pretty much us. 5-11 doesn't sound like a contender but you have to look at the overall play and in most of those games the Skins lost by like 3 points. Get a decent QB and decent WR's and that alone could be the difference of getting a few more 1st downs for a field goal, or even 1 more TD per game.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by sbxvii

hmmm..... And the skins are not that? The skins played better then the year before, the ol got better by the end of the year creating nice holes for the rb to run through, there was better protection, and we beat the sb champs twice. <- i now that may not mean much but it shows the skins can contend.

3rd year in the same system, ol understanding their assignments better, combined with a really good run game, and i don't care what anyone says our defense was one of the best limiting teams to 20 or less points most of the time. Thats what you want. Look at the patriots they gave up the most yrds all year but teams had a hard time scoring on them. Thats pretty much us. 5-11 doesn't sound like a contender but you have to look at the overall play and in most of those games the skins lost by like 3 points. Get a decent qb and decent wr's and that alone could be the difference of getting a few more 1st downs for a field goal, or even 1 more td per game.

dude right here you are saying we are a super bowl contender!

this was the quote you were answering to:

Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mredskins

dude right here you are saying we are a super bowl contender!

this was the quote you were answering to:

Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender

I said SB? I said contender. If we make it into the first round are we not contenders? The non contenders are the teams that didn't get to the playoffs, or so I thought.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I said SB? I said contender. If we make it into the first round are we not contenders? The non contenders are the teams that didn't get to the playoffs, or so I thought.

OMG seriously I am done. Pretty black and white what you said.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mredskins

OMG seriously I am done. Pretty black and white what you said.

#1 I said CONTENDER.
#2 with PM we will be a CONTENDER
#3 we only lost our games by less then 7 points or atleast most of them
#4 with out him I think next year we could be a CONTENDER
#5 with PM I think SB.

Happy. If you want to hear me say I think we are a SB team then yes with him I think we could be. RGIII... no. PM .... yes. RGIII.... no. PM.... yes. IF HEALTHY.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by TexSkins

Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender

If he's healthy he makes any team he plays for a Super Bowl contender. See the Colts for proof...Super bowl contender with him and worst team in the league without him.

[irish]

Originally Posted by TexSkins

Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender

Yes. I can not see any scenario where PM says to himself "I have to play for the Redskins." The Skins are waaaaay too far away from being contenders and have no weapons for him to use. Manning is smart enough to recognize Washigton is just not a good option for him.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by irish

Yes. I can not see any scenario where PM says to himself "I have to play for the Redskins." The Skins are waaaaay too far away from being contenders and have no weapons for him to use. Manning is smart enough to recognize Washigton is just not a good option for him.

Hint of sarcasm? yes-no?

Funny I can see him thinking the other way. Especially with Montana having spoken to him telling him how good MS is along with the OL being blocking better, and 3 really decent RB's who did very well in the second half of the season. I can see him saying if they take me and pick up 1 or top WR's from free agency, draft a young QB, pick up another WR, get some OL and fix the couple of holes they have on defense the Skins could go pretty far. I think he's pretty smart too to recognize a team that is on the verge of becoming great and might want to be apart of that.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Hint of sarcasm? yes-no?

Funny I can see him thinking the other way. Especially with Montana having spoken to him telling him how good MS is along with the OL being blocking better, and 3 really decent RB's who did very well in the second half of the season. I can see him saying if they take me and pick up 1 or top WR's from free agency, draft a young QB, pick up another WR, get some OL and fix the couple of holes they have on defense the Skins could go pretty far. I think he's pretty smart too to recognize a team that is on the verge of becoming great and might want to be apart of that.

No sarcasm, I was calling it like I see it. All it takes is watching the playoffs to see how far away the Skins are. Its like playoff teams are playing one game and the Skins something altogether different. You name about 6 things that need fixed just get get the team competitive, That's not a team on the verge. I just dont see him wanting to go with a team that is so far away. PM knows he has maybe 3 years left at best and needs to go to a team that is only a QB away from winning it all. He wants to win next year not in a few years after multiple holes get filled.

Would I like to see him in DC, yes I would. Do I think he will sign here, no I dont.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by irish

No sarcasm, I was calling it like I see it. All it takes is watching the playoffs to see how far away the Skins are. Its like playoff teams are playing one game and the Skins something altogether different. You name about 6 things that need fixed just get get the team competitive, That's not a team on the verge. I just dont see him wanting to go with a team that is so far away. PM knows he has maybe 3 years left at best and needs to go to a team that is only a QB away from winning it all. He wants to win next year not in a few years after multiple holes get filled.

Would I like to see him in DC, yes I would. Do I think he will sign here, no I dont.

I think you make some fair points here. Honestly, the reason I have made all of these Manning comments is because of what I've heard here and in the media about this place being a possible destination (and not the typical "oh let's throw the Redskins name in there since this is a big time free agent").

[irish]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think you make some fair points here. Honestly, the reason I have made all of these Manning comments is because of what I've heard here and in the media about this place being a possible destination (and not the typical "oh let's throw the Redskins name in there since this is a big time free agent").

I get the impression from some posts that people think all the Skins have to do is make an offer and he's here but unfortunately its a 2 way street and PM is gonna do what he feels is best for PM. I dont think PM is going to view the Redskins as the best choice for the final chapter of his career.

I do think he would help this team get better fast but I'm not sure he can get them to the playoffs.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by irish

No sarcasm, I was calling it like I see it. All it takes is watching the playoffs to see how far away the Skins are. Its like playoff teams are playing one game and the Skins something altogether different. You name about 6 things that need fixed just get get the team competitive, That's not a team on the verge. I just dont see him wanting to go with a team that is so far away. PM knows he has maybe 3 years left at best and needs to go to a team that is only a QB away from winning it all. He wants to win next year not in a few years after multiple holes get filled.

Would I like to see him in DC, yes I would. Do I think he will sign here, no I dont.

All of what I said aside. Our major problem was on offense is QB and WR. With top talent we could make the play offs. It would be nice to continue building the OL. On defense I feel we need a FS to give our CB better support. Otherwise I like our defense. I don't think they played as bad as people want to think they did.

3rd year is usually the charm in most teams that change their coaching staff. If not charm they make major strides. I'm excited for next year but we definitely need a QB and to not mortgage the future of this team for any one player.