Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mooby

Let me see if I can help pull it into total insanity here...

Honestly I think several people here have this misconception that you need to be the best team in the NFL with absolutely no holes in order to win the SB, when that's not often the case. Look at the Giants. Before the season if you had asked me I'd have said there's no way the Giants make the SB, let alone win it. But all they did was get hot at the right time and everything came together to make it happen for them. Same as it did 4 years ago.

If we have an elite qb like Manning that can run the offense smoothly and put up points, and our opportunistic defense can fix a couple things, I see no reason as to why we couldn't go on a playoff run. You just have to be hot and have everything come together at just the right time. Nobody was willing to give the Giants a chance until they were in the SB, and then the only reason people were saying they have a chance to win was because of their past history against the Pats.

Someone here (sorry, can't remember who) said that when you have an elite qb in place, it makes a lot of those other problems "disappear." I think that's definitely true. If Manning were here, considering the run game we could provide him and our solid yet unspectacular defense, I could easily see 10-6 or somewhere around there giving us the juice to get into the playoffs, and set us up for a run. Maybe not a SB run, but honestly in the NFL anything can happen.

I said that and so have some others. And I stand by that.

I think that you are right. Both the Giants and the Pats had some obvious holes in their rosters yet they played in the big dance. Why? In part because they had stellar QB play.

Our defense is not bad on the whole. Our running game is not bad on the whole. A big time QB makes us an instant contender - maybe not a SB winner, but a contender.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I said that and so have some others. And I stand by that.

I think that you are right. Both the Giants and the Pats had some obvious holes in their rosters yet they played in the big dance. Why? In part because they had stellar QB play.

Our defense is not bad on the whole. Our running game is not bad on the whole. A big time QB makes us an instant contender - maybe not a SB winner, but a contender.

I agree with that.
I bet our defense will be even better next year.
If we did have a happy/healthy Manning and a real #1 wide receiver I dont see why we couldnt hope to win 10+ games next year.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I said that and so have some others. And I stand by that.

I think that you are right. Both the Giants and the Pats had some obvious holes in their rosters yet they played in the big dance. Why? In part because they had stellar QB play.

Our defense is not bad on the whole. Our running game is not bad on the whole. A big time QB makes us an instant contender - maybe not a SB winner, but a contender.

SHHHHHH. Your optimism has got to be killing those fans who don't want to see anything but doom and gloom. You also wrecking their thought that we are so far away we need to get RGIII in order to get out of this hole. Because even though he has not done anything to establish himself in the NFL he's the franchise QB we need. Even though he's not a franchise QB yet.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

SHHHHHH. Your optimism has got to be killing those fans who don't want to see anything but doom and gloom. You also wrecking their thought that we are so far away we need to get RGIII in order to get out of this hole. Because even though he has not done anything to establish himself in the NFL he's the franchise QB we need. Even though he's not a franchise QB yet.

I don't consider my post above to be optimistic. I see it as realism. How quickly we forget that the Super Bowl winner went 9-7 in the regular season and other such facts.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I don't consider my post above to be optimistic. I see it as realism. How quickly we forget that the Super Bowl winner went 9-7 in the regular season and other such facts.

I know some here have gotten defensive about their comments... but friend I'm on your side. I maybe more optimistic then you but I agree with what you said. I'm just using a little sarcasm in regards to the people who say we are far off.