Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

Let me see if I can help pull it into total insanity here...

Honestly I think several people here have this misconception that you need to be the best team in the NFL with absolutely no holes in order to win the SB, when that's not often the case. Look at the Giants. Before the season if you had asked me I'd have said there's no way the Giants make the SB, let alone win it. But all they did was get hot at the right time and everything came together to make it happen for them. Same as it did 4 years ago.

If we have an elite qb like Manning that can run the offense smoothly and put up points, and our opportunistic defense can fix a couple things, I see no reason as to why we couldn't go on a playoff run. You just have to be hot and have everything come together at just the right time. Nobody was willing to give the Giants a chance until they were in the SB, and then the only reason people were saying they have a chance to win was because of their past history against the Pats.

Someone here (sorry, can't remember who) said that when you have an elite qb in place, it makes a lot of those other problems "disappear." I think that's definitely true. If Manning were here, considering the run game we could provide him and our solid yet unspectacular defense, I could easily see 10-6 or somewhere around there giving us the juice to get into the playoffs, and set us up for a run. Maybe not a SB run, but honestly in the NFL anything can happen.

This unspectacular offense could make Manning "disappear" too. Unless we upgrade the O-Line he wouldn't last two weeks in the NFC-E.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

This unspectacular offense could make Manning "disappear" too. Unless we upgrade the O-Line he wouldn't last two weeks in the NFC-E.

Manning had a really good offensive line early on, but in the last couple of seasons they were not that great. To me it seems that over the past couple of seasons, a lot of pundits kept saying that the Colts needed to upgrade their line. For some reason, the Colts never did, and when they did they had a couple of misfires in their picks.

A healthy Manning can pick apart any defense with just about any offensive line. As I mentioned before, if we sign him we have the draft ammunition to pick up good offensive linemen in the draft and there are some nice options in free agency. Finally, I would dare say that we probably have a better running game than anything the Colts have had in the past two/three seasons. And we've had a good running game during times when teams would stack the box and dare us to throw. You think with Manning under center they would do that?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

A healthy Manning can pick apart any defense with just about any offensive line. As I mentioned before, if we sign him we have the draft ammunition to pick up good offensive linemen in the draft and there are some nice options in free agency. Finally, I would dare say that we probably have a better running game than anything the Colts have had in the past two/three seasons. And we've had a good running game during times when teams would stack the box and dare us to throw. You think with Manning under center they would do that?

I agree with you 100%. For those here who think our team is way too bad to attract manning, or that this team would not benefit much just from adding a quarterback, i say youre out of your minds.

the colts with Manning historically win about 12 games year - no matter who the coach is. manning makes average receivers, average running backs, and below average offensive linemen look GREAT. Receivers, running backs, and tight ends who leave indy never amount to anything. Manning turns his supporting cast into playmakers, not the other way around. Manning, no matter how humble he may seem, knows this. He won't discount a team like washington because we dont have enough "playmakers."

Without Manning, the Colts are 2-14. Without Manning, we are 5-11. Without Manning, we were outscored by our oppenents an average of 3.125 points per game. Think about that. Even with "no receivers," "no offenive line," "a weak running game," and a quarterack who averages atleast 2 interceptions per game at critical junctures, we were within about one field goal from being able to win most of our games. Does anyone here think that, on average, Manning would not atleast give us one more touchdown and one less turnover than grossman per game? even if he's not 100% the manning of old?

Say what you want about our talent and coaching staff, but we are most certainly a better coached and more talented team than the Colts. We have a defense that would not constantly put him in holes, as his defense historically did in indy. In my opinion,if Manning came here, we would be a 12 win team immediately. We could WIN while we groom a young QB for the future. There is ZERO downside to signing a healthy peyton manning. We should do whatever we need to to acquire him.