Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by sbxvii

hmmm..... And the skins are not that? The skins played better then the year before, the ol got better by the end of the year creating nice holes for the rb to run through, there was better protection, and we beat the sb champs twice. <- i now that may not mean much but it shows the skins can contend.

3rd year in the same system, ol understanding their assignments better, combined with a really good run game, and i don't care what anyone says our defense was one of the best limiting teams to 20 or less points most of the time. Thats what you want. Look at the patriots they gave up the most yrds all year but teams had a hard time scoring on them. Thats pretty much us. 5-11 doesn't sound like a contender but you have to look at the overall play and in most of those games the skins lost by like 3 points. Get a decent qb and decent wr's and that alone could be the difference of getting a few more 1st downs for a field goal, or even 1 more td per game.

dude right here you are saying we are a super bowl contender!

this was the quote you were answering to:

Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mredskins

dude right here you are saying we are a super bowl contender!

this was the quote you were answering to:

Read the fine print. He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender

I said SB? I said contender. If we make it into the first round are we not contenders? The non contenders are the teams that didn't get to the playoffs, or so I thought.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I said SB? I said contender. If we make it into the first round are we not contenders? The non contenders are the teams that didn't get to the playoffs, or so I thought.

OMG seriously I am done. Pretty black and white what you said.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mredskins

OMG seriously I am done. Pretty black and white what you said.

#1 I said CONTENDER.
#2 with PM we will be a CONTENDER
#3 we only lost our games by less then 7 points or atleast most of them
#4 with out him I think next year we could be a CONTENDER
#5 with PM I think SB.

Happy. If you want to hear me say I think we are a SB team then yes with him I think we could be. RGIII... no. PM .... yes. RGIII.... no. PM.... yes. IF HEALTHY.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

#1 I said CONTENDER.
#2 with PM we will be a CONTENDER
#3 we only lost our games by less then 7 points or atleast most of them
#4 with out him I think next year we could be a CONTENDER
#5 with PM I think SB.

Happy. If you want to hear me say I think we are a SB team then yes with him I think we could be. RGIII... no. PM .... yes. RGIII.... no. PM.... yes. IF HEALTHY.

Dude you are dreaming. PM or no PM this team ain't seeing the SB next year and maybe not the playoffs.

And the lost by only 7 points argument is so old, it means squat really. That is a stat disillusion folks hold onto like their pacifier when they are upset and can not understand why this team blows.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Dude you are dreaming. PM or no PM this team ain't seeing the SB next year and maybe not the playoffs.

And the lost by only 7 points argument is so old, it means squat really. That is a stat disillusion folks hold onto like their pacifier when they are upset and can not understand why this team blows.

This team blows because we have had sorry a$$ QBs that can't score. But when you are losing 4 to 6 games by 7-8 pts. it is frustrating, because that is a small margin of victory. All people are saying here is that a healthy Manning with some additions (that would occur since we don't have to trade the farm to move up) would make this a winning team.

[Mahons21]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

This team blows because we have had sorry a$$ QBs that can't score.

Ehhhh, I'd have to say it's been a little bit more than that.

Poor o-line play has been a trademark of the Skins, whether it be due to lack of depth or lack of talent at the starting positions.

Since Bailey we haven't had a shutdown corner

Our pass-rush up until this season has been relatively weak.

Moss had about a year or two where he was a legitimate #1 WR, but for the most part we haven't had a #1 WR.

And lastly we haven't had any consistency, constant roster turnovers, and scheme changing is not likely to produce a winner.

But when you are losing 4 to 6 games by 7-8 pts. it is frustrating, because that is a small margin of victory. All people are saying here is that a healthy Manning with some additions (that would occur since we don't have to trade the farm to move up) would make this a winning team.

I actually agree that adding Manning could make us a contender, but not because we're that close, it's because we're talking about possibly the greatest QB of all time here. The implosion of the Colts this season, I would argue is evidence of this.

Furthermore, the current state of the NFCe despite the G-men winning the SB, isn't very strong. The Eagles "dream team" was nothing more than a dream, JJ thankfully ensures that the absorbent amount of talent DAL has will never be put to good use, and the Giants for whatever reason don't seem to match up well against the Shannahan coached Redskins.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

This team blows because we have had sorry a$$ QBs that can't score. But when you are losing 4 to 6 games by 7-8 pts. it is frustrating, because that is a small margin of victory. All people are saying here is that a healthy Manning with some additions (that would occur since we don't have to trade the farm to move up) would make this a winning team.

Yeah but that is today's NFL, no one is really getting blown out that often. So saying you lost by 7 or 8 doesn't hold water that you are on the verge of being a good team.

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[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Dude you are dreaming. PM or no PM this team ain't seeing the SB next year and maybe not the playoffs.

And the lost by only 7 points argument is so old, it means squat really. That is a stat disillusion folks hold onto like their pacifier when they are upset and can not understand why this team blows.

Your 100% correct because our team sucks. Please go find one that does not suck and be happy. In the mean time I'll stay here and be optimistic and think this team might, just might get its shit together and make it. Have a wonderful Valentines Day.