QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign

[skinsfaninok]

Mayock: Luck is great, but not a “once in a lifetime” prospect | ProFootballTalk

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Mayock: Luck is great, but not a “once in a lifetime” prospect | ProFootballTalk

I anticipate that after the combine, Luck vs RGIII will intensify greatly...just my guess.

...btw I have no idea either way. And I don't think it should be important to us this draft anyway...trading up i.e. mortgaging the future, at this stage in the Shanahan regime is not in the franchise's best interest (though it is in Mike's best interest). For those fascinated with the principal-agent concept from business school/econ days, well this is how it applies to football.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I anticipate that after the combine, Luck vs RGIII will intensify greatly...just my guess.

...btw I have no idea either way. And I don't think it should be important to us this draft anyway...trading up i.e. mortgaging the future, at this stage in the Shanahan regime is not in the franchise's best interest (though it is in Mike's best interest). For those fascinated with the principal-agent concept from business school/econ days, well this is how it applies to football.

Given our potential cap space and the availability of free agents in areas of need of offense (OG/WR) I don't think it is such a terrible thing to trade up.

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Mayock: Luck is great, but not a “once in a lifetime” prospect | ProFootballTalk

This made me laugh "Don’t forget this is the clown that said he’d choose Gabbert over Newton."

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

This made me laugh "Don’t forget this is the clown that said he’d choose Gabbert over Newton."

And he had a serious man crush on JaMarcus Russell. Then again I remember him being high on Matt Ryan when a lot of people were more luke warm.

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

And he had a serious man crush on JaMarcus Russell. Then again I remember him being high on Matt Ryan when a lot of people were more luke warm.

I guess the jury is still out on Gabbert too.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

And he had a serious man crush on JaMarcus Russell. Then again I remember him being high on Matt Ryan when a lot of people were more luke warm.

Well what exactly has he done in the NFL? 0 playoff wins...

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Well what exactly has he done in the NFL? 0 playoff wins...

I seem to remember complaints like that about another prominent QB early in his career. I forget his name though. It was like Paton Tanning or something like that. Took him like 5 games before he got a win in the postseason.

1999 (0-1), 2000 (0-1), 2002 (0-1), 2003 (2-1), 2004 (1-1), 2005 (0-1), 2006 (4-0), 2007 (0-1), 2008 (0-1), 2009 (2-1), 2010 (0-1)

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I seem to remember complaints like that about another prominent QB early in his career. I forget his name though. It was like Paton Tanning or something like that. Took him like 5 games before he got a win in the postseason.

1999 (0-1), 2000 (0-1), 2002 (0-1), 2003 (2-1), 2004 (1-1), 2005 (0-1), 2006 (4-0), 2007 (0-1), 2008 (0-1), 2009 (2-1), 2010 (0-1)

atty MIce is no Paton Tanning.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

atty MIce is no Paton Tanning.

Point being don't be so quick to declare him a failure. If he was 30 something and still hadn't won a playoff game after multiple trips to the postseason then fine you would have a point but given he's in year 4, well it's like celebrating after ending the first quarter with a lead.

Also lets review who defeated Matt Ryan in the playoffs over the course of these last 4 years.

2011: Giants - Super Bowl Champs
2010: Packers - Super Bowl Champs
2008: Cardinals - Super Bowl Representative for the NFC

It's not like he's loosing to teams that are loosing a week later.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I seem to remember complaints like that about another prominent QB early in his career. I forget his name though. It was like Paton Tanning or something like that. Took him like 5 games before he got a win in the postseason.

1999 (0-1), 2000 (0-1), 2002 (0-1), 2003 (2-1), 2004 (1-1), 2005 (0-1), 2006 (4-0), 2007 (0-1), 2008 (0-1), 2009 (2-1), 2010 (0-1)

He's a choker in the playoffs. Took a colossal collapse by the Pats for him to get to his first super bowl.

He's no John Grady that's for sure.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Mayock: Luck is great, but not a “once in a lifetime” prospect | ProFootballTalk

Mayock is so far up RGIII back side anyone else is just a turd.

News flash RGIII is not a once in a life time prospect either.

Vick
Cunningham
McNair
McNabb
Moon
Culpepper
Newton

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Mayock is so far up RGIII back side anyone else is just a turd.

News flash RGIII is not a once in a life time prospect either.

Vick
Cunningham
McNair
McNabb
Moon
Culpepper
Newton

Hall of Famer

Record-setting Rookie of the Year

Also:

McNair was a perennial playoff QB who was within 1 yard of being a SB Champion.

Cunningham led the 2nd most prolific offense in NFL history (1998 Vikings)

McNabb is probably going to the HOF at some point.....blah

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Hall of Famer

Record-setting Rookie of the Year

Also:

McNair was a perennial playoff QB who was with 1 yard of being a SB Champion.

Cunningham led the 2nd most prolific offense in NFL history (1998 Vikings)

McNabb is probably going to the HOF at some point.....blah

don't forget that culpepper once threw it 82 yards with no pads on

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Mayock is so far up RGIII back side anyone else is just a turd.

News flash RGIII is not a once in a life time prospect either.

Vick
Cunningham
McNair
McNabb
Moon
Culpepper
Newton

What a curious list.