Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think I heard that RG3 won't be throwing at the combine. I think he and Tannehill are just doing measurements and interviews. Maybe the 40 for RG3 but I'm not sure

I think he'll make a big impression whether or not he throws and I assume he'll throw at his Pro Day. By Draft Day, I believe that St. Louis will be conducting a process that is tantamount to an auction for the #2 pick.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I think he'll make a big impression whether or not he throws and I assume he'll throw at his Pro Day. By Draft Day, I believe that St. Louis will be conducting a process that is tantamount to an auction for the #2 pick.

I think the Dolphins will trade up for him, that's my current guess

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the Dolphins will trade up for him, that's my current guess

Think the Rams would want to move that far back?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

We need to prepare ourselves for the possibility that we may not land our Franchise QB this season.

First, there will be a number of other teams who will be trying just as hard as we will be to land a Franchise QB. We may simply be outmaneuvered by a couple of other teams.

Peyton Manning is going somewhere and, with the stage of rebuilding we're currently in, I don't think it will be here. He's almost certainly going to sign where nearly all of the pieces are already in place for him to have a good shot at ending his career with a glorious Super Bowl winning season. That seems to me to be what the great Peyton Manning would do. He won't be going anywhere just to get a paycheck. BTW, we may all be surprised by the team he picks. The Jets? The Ravens? The Texans?

Secondly, I believe that RGIII will make an unbelieveable impression at the NFL Combine, on and off the field. Teams, even some unexpected teams, will be trying to top one another's offers to St. Louis to move up to #2 in the draft. As I stated here before, if Cleveland wants RGIII bad enough, they'll get him because their situation with the #4 pick and the #22 pick sets up a situation that is just about perfect for St. Louis to have a remarkable draft if they trade the #2 pick to Cleveland.

And, of course, Andrew Luck will be picked either #1 or #2.

That's it folks! You now have the complete list of potential Franchise QB's projected to be available in 2012.

So what should we do?

1. Load up as much as we can in FA in anticipation of having fewer draft picks this year if we are fortunate enough to trade for the #2.
2. Sign a mid-level QB in FA who can be either the interim starter or the backup.
3. Do everything possible, perhaps a little beyond reasonable, to acquire the #2 pick.
4a. If we get the #2 pick, wait to see who Indy takes between Luck and Griffin III and then put in our card one picosecond later for the other one.
4b. If we don't get the #2 pick, then proceed with the draft in the normal fashion, targeting a good young QB in the early rounds.

The plan seems rather simple to me but, as the old saying goes, the devil is in the details.

I think I agree with you. I don't agree with the statement about PM and our state of "rebuilding." I think we are farther along then the other teams that would need his services. His only other option would be to by choice go to a team that already has an established QB and team and has made a run in the playoffs. and I don't think he's going to want to sit on the bench just to get another ring.

Dolphins
Browns
Vikes
Rams
Jaguars
Bucks

are not in better shape then we are. Houston maybe but they have an established QB. Dallas maybe. I could see that since JJ was shopping at the Senior Bowl and mentioned he is always looking to upgrade that position. lol. Bills... maybe. Titans... maybe just to sling mud at the Colts. I just don't see any team with an established QB that would take him over what they already have.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I think I agree with you. I don't agree with the statement about PM and our state of "rebuilding." I think we are farther along then the other teams that would need his services. His only other option would be to by choice go to a team that already has an established QB and team and has made a run in the playoffs. and I don't think he's going to want to sit on the bench just to get another ring.

Dolphins
Browns
Vikes
Rams
Jaguars
Bucks

are not in better shape then we are. Houston maybe but they have an established QB. Dallas maybe. I could see that since JJ was shopping at the Senior Bowl and mentioned he is always looking to upgrade that position. lol. Bills... maybe. Titans... maybe just to sling mud at the Colts. I just don't see any team with an established QB that would take him over what they already have.

You and I are not thinking of the same teams for PM. I'm looking for a solid team that has a good but not great QB to make a bold, risky move to go for the Super Bowl in the 2012 season. I'm not saying that the team that signs him will be making a wise choice, but more of a desperate choice.

For example, the Jets. They were a huge disappointment this past season. They have a QB who may not be good enough to back up the bravado of their big-mouth coach. PM might give them a chance to go to a SB.

Another example is the Ravens. If Ray Lewis and Ed Reed come back for one last hurrah, they'll do it to win a Super Bowl. In Baltimore, what Ray Lewis wants, Ray Lewis gets. Is PM the final ingredient for the Ravens to win another SB? I think he could be. PM to Baltimore is not out of the question IMO.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

You and I are not thinking of the same teams for PM. I'm looking for a solid team that has a good but not great QB to make a bold, risky move to go for the Super Bowl in the 2012 season. I'm not saying that the team that signs him will be making a wise choice, but more of a desperate choice.

For example, the Jets. They were a huge disappointment this past season. They have a QB who may not be good enough to back up the bravado of their big-mouth coach. PM might give them a chance to go to a SB.

Another example is the Ravens. If Ray Lewis and Ed Reed come back for one last hurrah, they'll do it to win a Super Bowl. In Baltimore, what Ray Lewis wants, Ray Lewis gets. Is PM the final ingredient for the Ravens to win another SB? I think he could be. PM to Baltimore is not out of the question IMO.

I forgot about the Jets. Your right. Ravens I really don't see why they should. But you bring up a good point with Lewis.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

This is what I'm thinking and banking on. RGIII is getting so much hype and it's all in regards to his mobility. I'm betting the coaching staff there will want to pick him up because he will (as everyone else believes) buy time with his legs or get the first down himself. I mention this because it helps while the rest of the players are still learning the offense, ie; WR routes, OL blocking schemes.

The next big question is would Luck fall to number 6? Personally I feel Luck would have a better chance of making it to #6 vs. RGIII and it's not because I think RGIII is a better QB, it's because Luck is an unknown and offers not much of a different option for those other teams... Rams- Bradford, Vikes- Ponder, Browns- McCoy, all pocket passers. Luck might be more accurate or might be able to throw farther but otherwise the QB they have already knows the system and they would be better off keeping their QB who knows their system and build around him. RGIII is different because he has his legs to extend a play which is not what those teams have right now.

I think the colts will realize their team is older and the line isn't as good anymore, also it's not like they play in a great division so a dynamic star like rg3 could make a mike vick impact there sooner than a luck could a peyton like impact

[MTK]

He's a heck of an athlete.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He's a heck of an athlete.

Yup.

[MTK]

I like RGIII, but the Colts would be insane to pass over Luck. I just don't see it happening unless someone knocks their socks off with a trade offer.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I like RGIII, but the Colts would be insane to pass over Luck. I just don't see it happening unless someone knocks their socks off with a trade offer.

The Colts picked Edge over Ricky Williams, that was a big bomb back then and that was in the age of when RB's were gods.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I like RGIII, but the Colts would be insane to pass over Luck. I just don't see it happening unless someone knocks their socks off with a trade offer.

The same was said about Locker and the Panthers took Newton.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The same was said about Locker and the Panthers took Newton.

Incorrect.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Incorrect.

Maybe I'm coming from a totally different dimension but I could have sworn at this time last year all the way leading up to the draft most Mock drafts had Locker going 1st. Even Luck going 2nd but Luck chose to stay in college. It wasn't until after the Combine that Newton started making headway. I think he pushed himself with the interview with Gruden.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Maybe I'm coming from a totally different dimension but I could have sworn at this time last year all the way leading up to the draft most Mock drafts had Locker going 1st. Even Luck going 2nd but Luck chose to stay in college. It wasn't until after the Combine that Newton started making headway. I think he pushed himself with the interview with Gruden.

That was two years ago. Some people thought he would have gone ahead of Bradford in 2010. Last year it was actually considered a bit of a reach when Tennessee took him 8th.