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Old 02-19-2012, 08:35 PM   #1
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:51 PM   #2
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Brandon Weeden, Rex Grossman, John Beck, Nate Davis, G.J. Kinne
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Prediction for QBs on roster heading into training camp:

Brandon Weeden, Rex Grossman, John Beck, Nate Davis, G.J. Kinne
Hopefully there will be someone there to talk me in off the ledge if this happens...
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Prediction for QBs on roster heading into training camp:

Brandon Weeden, Rex Grossman, John Beck, Nate Davis, G.J. Kinne
This guy gets alot of hate, but he's pretty damn good. He can really throw the ball around. There are better QBs for our scheme fit in the draft, but not many better QB coming out. I think he transitions to the NFL much easier than some. I wouldnt mind him being here, but it still allows for the same problem.
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Old 02-20-2012, 12:46 PM   #6
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This guy gets alot of hate, but he's pretty damn good. He can really throw the ball around. There are better QBs for our scheme fit in the draft, but not many better QB coming out. I think he transitions to the NFL much easier than some. I wouldnt mind him being here, but it still allows for the same problem.
I have a fourth round grade on it (which is actually up from where I had him at the end of the season), but unless you ask the question, "what are the Redskins looking for at this pick?" you would not have been able to predict the Jarvis Jenkins pick either.

When I was evaluating the Jenkins pick, I noticed two things:
1) The Redskins may have been able to get Jenkins a round later
2) They did not pass up anyone else that could do what Jenkins could in order to take him

I kind of think that Weeden in the second round would be the same thing. The Redskins probably could get him in the third round. But what are they looking for? Someone who fits both what Mike and Kyle like in a QB? Someone with advanced mechanics? A guy who will not limit the offense with physical limitations? Brandon Weeden offers all that. The only thing he doesn't offer is a good value pick at a need position.

I think that FANS should be skeptical of Weeden because fans want the best long-term solution possible. Weeden won't even be the best value pick at QB on the board whenever he is drafted. Kellen Moore and Kirk Cousins have MUCH better long term projections, in my estimation. But why on God's Green Earth would the Shanahans care who the QB of the Redskins is in 2016? They aren't going to base ANY of their draft decisions on long-term projection, which is why Weeden makes more sense for them than for another team.
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I have a fourth round grade on it (which is actually up from where I had him at the end of the season), but unless you ask the question, "what are the Redskins looking for at this pick?" you would not have been able to predict the Jarvis Jenkins pick either.

When I was evaluating the Jenkins pick, I noticed two things:
1) The Redskins may have been able to get Jenkins a round later
2) They did not pass up anyone else that could do what Jenkins could in order to take him

I kind of think that Weeden in the second round would be the same thing. The Redskins probably could get him in the third round. But what are they looking for? Someone who fits both what Mike and Kyle like in a QB? Someone with advanced mechanics? A guy who will not limit the offense with physical limitations? Brandon Weeden offers all that. The only thing he doesn't offer is a good value pick at a need position.

I think that FANS should be skeptical of Weeden because fans want the best long-term solution possible. Weeden won't even be the best value pick at QB on the board whenever he is drafted. Kellen Moore and Kirk Cousins have MUCH better long term projections, in my estimation. But why on God's Green Earth would the Shanahans care who the QB of the Redskins is in 2016? They aren't going to base ANY of their draft decisions on long-term projection, which is why Weeden makes more sense for them than for another team.
A lot of fans act like the guy is 38 years old. He can play until his late 30's. He could easily have a 8-10 year career if he's good enough. Everyone needs to remember that Weeden isn't a running back. If the front office thinks he's good enough then being 29 shouldn't really matter. I'd have no problem taking him in the 2nd round.
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A lot of fans act like the guy is 38 years old. He can play until his late 30's. He could easily have a 8-10 year career if he's good enough. Everyone needs to remember that Weeden isn't a running back. If the front office thinks he's good enough then being 29 shouldn't really matter. I'd have no problem taking him in the 2nd round.
Still age is a big difference for a QB-starved team. Plus, with him there is no "let's develop him" because of his age. If you want him as a back up, then age is not an issue. If you want him as a starter, then he better start from day one.
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A lot of fans act like the guy is 38 years old. He can play until his late 30's. He could easily have a 8-10 year career if he's good enough. Everyone needs to remember that Weeden isn't a running back. If the front office thinks he's good enough then being 29 shouldn't really matter. I'd have no problem taking him in the 2nd round.
Yea people act like he'll come into the league with a walker or cane. What we need to be concerned with is can they make the throws, lead the WR, make decent decisions, limit the turn overs, and not cost us two yrs worth of top draft picks.
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Prediction for QBs on roster heading into training camp:

Brandon Weeden, Rex Grossman, John Beck, Nate Davis, G.J. Kinne
Got to hell with that prediction!!

Haha. Kill me if that is the case. Kill me dead.
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Haha. Kill me if that is the case. Kill me dead.

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Got to hell with that prediction!!

Haha. Kill me if that is the case. Kill me dead.
I could live with Weeden. If you discount his age he's easily the third best QB in the draft. To me he's the closest thing you'll find to an Andy Dalton in this years draft.

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I could live with Weeden. If you discount his age he's easily the third best QB in the draft. To me he's the closest thing you'll find to an Andy Dalton in this years draft.

WEEEEEEDEN! OKUNGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
Because of his age, the best situation for Weeden is with the Skins. If he was as talented as Luck, he would be considered a late first or second rounder. But, he isn't so I imagine the Skins will have a chance to nab him in the third, possibly later. That's value.
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Prediction for QBs on roster heading into training camp:

Brandon Weeden, Rex Grossman, John Beck, Nate Davis, G.J. Kinne
There is absolutely no chance Rex and beck are both on still and no to weeden also, we will go get Manning or orton before that
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