Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

[skinsfaninok]

After the combine and workout the colts will take RGIII anyone wanna take me up on it?

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

After the combine and workout the colts will take RGIII anyone wanna take me up on it?

That could quite possibly be the case. I'm actually hoping for this to happen...

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

After the combine and workout the colts will take RGIII anyone wanna take me up on it?

I doubt it. Luck has a higher floor and is much less of an injury risk which after a year without Peyton is a huge selling point for the Colts. The question isn't weather RGIII is going to get injured but rather when.

I personally like Griffin more but if I was picking for the Colts I would take Luck. Luck is much more equipped to run a pro style offense in terms of routes and reading coverage out of a traditional NFL offense. He also has just as strong an arm as Griffin and while he's no where near the scrambler that Griffin is he can definitely move and pick up yards with his feet as well as create second chance opportunities.

There is no doubt that Baylor's offense is gimmicky and probably has some odd reads and adjustments which will factor against Griffin.

And theres no doubt Griffin can learn these things but with Luck it is less likely to be an issue.

I will say this though. Griffin is more likely to win rookie of the year then Luck even though Luck will be the better passer right out of the gate.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I doubt it. Luck has a higher floor and is much less of an injury risk which after a year without Peyton is a huge selling point for the Colts. The question isn't weather RGIII is going to get injured but rather when.

I personally like Griffin more but if I was picking for the Colts I would take Luck. Luck is much more equipped to run a pro style offense in terms of routes and reading coverage out of a traditional NFL offense. He also has just as strong an arm as Griffin and while he's no where near the scrambler that Griffin is he can definitely move and pick up yards with his feet as well as create second chance opportunities.

There is no doubt that Baylor's offense is gimmicky and probably has some odd reads and adjustments which will factor against Griffin.

And theres no doubt Griffin can learn these things but with Luck it is less likely to be an issue.

I will say this though. Griffin is more likely to win rookie of the year then Luck even though Luck will be the better passer right out of the gate.

From what I keep reading RGIII offense was the spread and yes it was gimmicky. Also he was not asked to read the defense and change the play at the LOS. All he was asked to do was call the play and run it and from what I'm reading if his first option was not available he often ran for the yards himself.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

After the combine and workout the colts will take RGIII anyone wanna take me up on it?

This is what I'm thinking and banking on. RGIII is getting so much hype and it's all in regards to his mobility. I'm betting the coaching staff there will want to pick him up because he will (as everyone else believes) buy time with his legs or get the first down himself. I mention this because it helps while the rest of the players are still learning the offense, ie; WR routes, OL blocking schemes.

The next big question is would Luck fall to number 6? Personally I feel Luck would have a better chance of making it to #6 vs. RGIII and it's not because I think RGIII is a better QB, it's because Luck is an unknown and offers not much of a different option for those other teams... Rams- Bradford, Vikes- Ponder, Browns- McCoy, all pocket passers. Luck might be more accurate or might be able to throw farther but otherwise the QB they have already knows the system and they would be better off keeping their QB who knows their system and build around him. RGIII is different because he has his legs to extend a play which is not what those teams have right now.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

This is what I'm thinking and banking on. RGIII is getting so much hype and it's all in regards to his mobility. I'm betting the coaching staff there will want to pick him up because he will (as everyone else believes) buy time with his legs or get the first down himself. I mention this because it helps while the rest of the players are still learning the offense, ie; WR routes, OL blocking schemes.

The next big question is would Luck fall to number 6? Personally I feel Luck would have a better chance of making it to #6 vs. RGIII and it's not because I think RGIII is a better QB, it's because Luck is an unknown and offers not much of a different option for those other teams... Rams- Bradford, Vikes- Ponder, Browns- McCoy, all pocket passers. Luck might be more accurate or might be able to throw farther but otherwise the QB they have already knows the system and they would be better off keeping their QB who knows their system and build around him. RGIII is different because he has his legs to extend a play which is not what those teams have right now.

Luck is an unknown?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Luck is an unknown?

LOL. Thanks I needed that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

LOL. Thanks I needed that.

:confused:

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Luck is an unknown?

I didn't mean unknown as in he might not have any skills. Honestly I was typing and my mind was going faster then my hands so I'm not even sure why I wrote that.

I think what I was trying to say was his (unknown) is not going to be much different then what the teams I mentioned already have and then I went on to point out that their QB's are pocket passers also. So instead of taking him which will take some time for him to learn the system and for everyone on offense to get on page with each other they would be better served to keep their current QB's who already know their systems and might provide more wins now over taking Luck.

In the long run Luck would probably be better then what they have but with the win now mentality "I" think they would be better served staying put. RGIII offered something Luck didn't and something their current QB's do not and thats mobility.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I didn't mean unknown as in he might not have any skills. Honestly I was typing and my mind was going faster then my hands so I'm not even sure why I wrote that.

I think what I was trying to say was his (unknown) is not going to be much different then what the teams I mentioned already have and then I went on to point out that their QB's are pocket passers also. So instead of taking him which will take some time for him to learn the system and for everyone on offense to get on page with each other they would be better served to keep their current QB's who already know their systems and might provide more wins now over taking Luck.

In the long run Luck would probably be better then what they have but with the win now mentality "I" think they would be better served staying put. RGIII offered something Luck didn't and something their current QB's do not and thats mobility.

So you think Luck is just a pocket passer?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

So you think Luck is just a pocket passer?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

So you think Luck is just a pocket passer?

Yes. simply put. Compared to RGIII, Luck is more of a pocket passer I think. I know you'll throw out the yrds he had in college but I'd still say he tends to stay in the pocket more and go through his progressions more so then RGIII.

Andrew Luck Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Stanford Cardinal - ESPN

In most of his games he had anywhere from 1-3 run attempts.

Robert Griffin III Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Baylor Bears - ESPN

Robert had anywhere from 6 to 26 run attempts per game.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Yes. simply put. Compared to RGIII, Luck is more of a pocket passer I think. I know you'll throw out the yrds he had in college but I'd still say he tends to stay in the pocket more and go through his progressions more so then RGIII.

Andrew Luck Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Stanford Cardinal - ESPN

In most of his games he had anywhere from 1-3 run attempts.

Robert Griffin III Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Baylor Bears - ESPN

Robert had anywhere from 6 to 26 run attempts per game.

How many offensive plays per game is that per team?

Running plays?

Passing plays?


What was the percentage of Luck running based on number of plays compared to that of RGIII?


I think you need to look more into the numbers than just that.

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

RGIII is getting so much hype and it's all in regards to his mobility. I'm betting the coaching staff there will want to pick him up because he will (as everyone else believes) buy time with his legs or get the first down himself. I mention this because it helps while the rest of the players are still learning the offense, ie; WR routes, OL blocking schemes.

Dont forget his down field accuracy.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

Dont forget his down field accuracy.

I'm pretty sure he has excellent down field accuracy. They even call it uncanny down field accuracy. Which I know is what we need. I could have sworn I saw something and I mentioned that his mid level accuracy was an issue and got called out on it.