New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't think you can draw a line between paying for clean hits or knockout shots. Either way it's illegal and the penalty should be severe regardless.

Let's not be naive, I think GW was paying for rewarding players for both types of hits.

He was using the phrase "kill shots." How anyone can be arguing that this is on the up and up is funny and stupid.

He wanted to knock out the top players on the opponents offense, and likened doing so to cutting off the head of a snake. He wanted the opponents best players out of the game, plain and simple. That doesn't mean he didn't reward good play that wasn't dirty- a la Philip Daniels getting $1500 for 4 sacks- but to encourage "kill shots" is deplorable. You're talking about peoples lives and livelihood. Football is dangerous enough without that kind of thuggery.

I mean, Williams himself apologized for it, called it a mistake, and said he knew it was wrong while he was doing it. Like you said, if the main culprit admitted it and said he was wrong, what else is there to defend?

Those of you excusing any of this should just stop. You're lowering the overall IQ of this message board.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by GMScud

He was using the phrase "kill shots." How anyone can be arguing that this is on the up and up is funny and stupid.

He wanted to knock out the top players on the opponents offense, and likened doing so to cutting off the head of a snake. He wanted the opponents best players out of the game, plain and simple. That doesn't mean he didn't reward good play that wasn't dirty- a la Philip Daniels getting $1500 for 4 sacks- but to encourage "kill shots" is deplorable. You're talking about peoples lives and livelihood. Football is dangerous enough without that kind of thuggery.

I mean, Williams himself apologized for it, called it a mistake, and said he knew it was wrong while he was doing it. Like you said, if the main culprit admitted it and said he was wrong, what else is there to defend?

Those of you excusing any of this should just stop. You're lowering the overall IQ of this message board.

Okay I completely agree with you that what is going on is wrong. My point is if it is wrong no matter what, intentional injury or not, and this is going on all over the league for a long time, shouldn't every team in the league involved get in trouble, not just the Saints? That's like jailing the ring leader of a gang of murders and letting the rest go free.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Okay I completely agree with you that what is going on is wrong. My point is if it is wrong no matter what, intentional injury or not, and this is going on all over the league for a long time, shouldn't every team in the league involved get in trouble, not just the Saints? That's like jailing the ring leader of a gang of murders and letting the rest go free.

The Saints are different from the other murderers because they were warned and kept on going. The other murderers are stealthy.