New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The link I read quoted ONE guy who took out James Stewart on a LEGAL it. What's the big deal there? Stewart got hurt on a legal hit!!!! It happens every week in the NFL. It sucks that he got hurt but Wire did nothing wrong.

Let me ask you this. What in the world do you think Sean Taylor was trying to do on all those "kill" shots that he delivered in his career??? He wasn't just trying to bring the guy down. He's trying to hurt the opponent. Not hurt him where is career is in jepordy. But hurt him where he's trying to intimidate and inflict pain. That's football!!!!!!!! What GW did was wrong. I just don't have a problem with it, nor do a lot of the players that I've heard comment on it.

I am sure that there are some players out there that have the "intimidation" mentality. However, these bounties pretty much give incentives to players to hurt them to the point where it may jeopardize their career period.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I am sure that there are some players out there that have the "intimidation" mentality. However, these bounties pretty much give incentives to players to hurt them to the point where it may jeopardize their career period.

So do you think when Sean Taylor laid the wood on people was he trying to "jeopardize" a career? He was obviously part of this bounty program. You can go on You Tube now and look at all the hits Taylor laid out. What's your opinion on his hitting style?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So do you think when Sean Taylor laid the wood on people was he trying to "jeopardize" a career? He was obviously part of this bounty program. You can go on You Tube now and look at all the hits Taylor laid out. What's your opinion on his hitting style?

Look I can see there is no convincing you so I'm going to stop. I have my opinion, you have your own. It doesn't mean sh*t what we think, in the end this is in the hands of the NFL, the teams, the owners, and the players. Bottom line what happened is wrong, the NFL is changing, and we as fans have to deal with that.

There are things from the "good ol' days" that are good and some are bad (like many things in life). In the end, this is "wrong enough" that Williams, the Saints, and players are going to lose money over it and have their careers affected by it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Look I can see there is no convincing you so I'm going to stop. I have my opinion, you have your own. It doesn't mean sh*t what we think, in the end this is in the hands of the NFL, the teams, the owners, and the players. Bottom line what happened is wrong, the NFL is changing, and we as fans have to deal with that.

There are things from the "good ol' days" that are good and some are bad (like many things in life). In the end, this is "wrong enough" that Williams, the Saints, and players are going to lose money over it and have their careers affected by it.

Fair. But you still wouldn't answer the question, which is fine. I respect your opinion.

I just think that it was ok when Taylor was trying to destroy other teams players... and make NO MISTAKE about it... when he was hitting someone, he was doing it with the intent to HURT the opposing player. Not end a career, but take him out a few plays or whatever. And WE ALL cheered when he did it and that's what we loved him for, his intimidating ruthless style. He probbaly got extra cash for it. But when a Saints player does it, he's doing it with the intent to end a career. I think we have some hypocrites here.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Fair. But you still wouldn't answer the question, which is fine. I respect your opinion.

I just think that it was ok when Taylor was trying to destroy other teams players... and make NO MISTAKE about it... when he was hitting someone, he was doing it with the intent to HURT the opposing player. Not end a career, but take him out a few plays or whatever. And WE ALL cheered when he did it and that's what we loved him for, his intimidating ruthless style. He probbaly got extra cash for it. But when a Saints player does it, he's doing it with the intent to end a career. I think we have some hypocrites here.

You continue to fail to see the line. If a player has a mindset (separate from what coaches are telling him to do) that he's gonna go out and headhunt, that's a whole different story. In that case, it's up to the coach to keep that same fire burning in the player, but coach him up to be smart and not do things that will cost the team, i.e. 15 yard penalties, suspensions, etc.

It's a whole different story when a coach is actually encouraging and paying guys to go try to get someone carted off the field. It's so wrong.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You continue to fail to see the line. If a player has a mindset (separate from what coaches are telling him to do) that he's gonna go out and headhunt, that's a whole different story. In that case, it's up to the coach to keep that same fire burning in the player, but coach him up to be smart and not do things that will cost the team, i.e. 15 yard penalties, suspensions, etc.

It's a whole different story when a coach is actually encouraging and paying guys to go try to get someone carted off the field. It's so wrong.

It's like a platoon sergeant telling his soldiers to shoot by-standing citizens.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You continue to fail to see the line. If a player has a mindset (separate from what coaches are telling him to do) that he's gonna go out and headhunt, that's a whole different story. In that case, it's up to the coach to keep that same fire burning in the player, but coach him up to be smart and not do things that will cost the team, i.e. 15 yard penalties, suspensions, etc.

It's a whole different story when a coach is actually encouraging and paying guys to go try to get someone carted off the field. It's so wrong.

I get your point clearly. I have yet to hear ONE player say that Gregg Williams wanted his defensive players to INTENTIONALLY hurt a guy where he wanted them to take a guy out for the sake of ending his career....and then pay them for it. If you hit a guy hard, and it's a CLEAN hit, and he gets carted off the field then guess what? That's football. What Phillip Daniels did back in 05 was great. If he gets extra cash and is praised in front of his co-workers then I'm all for it.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I get your point clearly. I have yet to hear ONE player say that Gregg Williams wanted his defensive players to INTENTIONALLY hurt a guy where he wanted them to take a guy out for the sake of ending his career....and then pay them for it. If you hit a guy hard, and it's a CLEAN hit, and he gets carted off the field then guess what? That's football. What Phillip Daniels did back in 05 was great. If he gets extra cash and is praised in front of his co-workers then I'm all for it.

Even though it is against the rules? Blatantly so. Oh, and illegal.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I get your point clearly. I have yet to hear ONE player say that Gregg Williams wanted his defensive players to INTENTIONALLY hurt a guy where he wanted them to take a guy out for the sake of ending his career....and then pay them for it. If you hit a guy hard, and it's a CLEAN hit, and he gets carted off the field then guess what? That's football. What Phillip Daniels did back in 05 was great. If he gets extra cash and is praised in front of his co-workers then I'm all for it.

What do you think taking the head off the snake means exactly?

You really think players were paid for "clean hits" only.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I get your point clearly. I have yet to hear ONE player say that Gregg Williams wanted his defensive players to INTENTIONALLY hurt a guy where he wanted them to take a guy out for the sake of ending his career....and then pay them for it. If you hit a guy hard, and it's a CLEAN hit, and he gets carted off the field then guess what? That's football. What Phillip Daniels did back in 05 was great. If he gets extra cash and is praised in front of his co-workers then I'm all for it.

I thought the investigation concluded that the bounty program had incentives for getting a guy knocked out of the game or carted off the field. I am sure this had to come from the players themselves.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I get your point clearly. I have yet to hear ONE player say that Gregg Williams wanted his defensive players to INTENTIONALLY hurt a guy where he wanted them to take a guy out for the sake of ending his career....and then pay them for it. If you hit a guy hard, and it's a CLEAN hit, and he gets carted off the field then guess what? That's football. What Phillip Daniels did back in 05 was great. If he gets extra cash and is praised in front of his co-workers then I'm all for it.

Dude really? Just stop. How can you even think that paying guys cash bonuses to get a man carted off the field does in no way imply malicious intent?

Going out there with the intent to put a man on a stretcher IS intentionally trying to hurt him. It's so cut and dry, it's baffling that you can't wrap your brain around it.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I get your point clearly. I have yet to hear ONE player say that Gregg Williams wanted his defensive players to INTENTIONALLY hurt a guy where he wanted them to take a guy out for the sake of ending his career....and then pay them for it. If you hit a guy hard, and it's a CLEAN hit, and he gets carted off the field then guess what? That's football. What Phillip Daniels did back in 05 was great. If he gets extra cash and is praised in front of his co-workers then I'm all for it.

WRONG.

This from Bufffalo:

NFL.com news: Former Bills safety Wire reveals 'bounty' system under Williams

Wire told The Buffalo News in Sunday's editions that "there was financial compensation" for delivering hits that seriously injured opponents, and three other former teammates, who spoke on condition of anonymity, also confirmed it to the newspaper.

So there you go. There's a player saying guys were paid to deliver hits that "seriously injured opponents."

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So do you think when Sean Taylor laid the wood on people was he trying to "jeopardize" a career? He was obviously part of this bounty program. You can go on You Tube now and look at all the hits Taylor laid out. What's your opinion on his hitting style?

Speaking of laying the wood, has anybody seen that Kate Upton Carls Jr commercial? whats the bounty on that? sweet baby jesus she's amazing

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Speaking of laying the wood, has anybody seen that Kate Upton Carls Jr commercial? whats the bounty on that? sweet baby jesus she's amazing

And the "Dirty Sanchez" is drawing a mustache on her.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Speaking of laying the wood, has anybody seen that Kate Upton Carls Jr commercial? whats the bounty on that? sweet baby jesus she's amazing

they have carls jr in va?