Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

So part 1 of the RG3 leverage plan is looking good. Now for part 2. Getting Flynn to Cleveland instead of Seattle.

well thats if Manning wants to play there

[Bubba305-ST21-]

why cant we pick up peyton and trade up to get rg3 as well to sit a few years?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

why cant we pick up peyton and trade up to get rg3 as well to sit a few years?

Because that would be stupid.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Because that would be stupid.

Break it down for me why it would be so.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Break it down for me why it would be so.

me too

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Break it down for me why it would be so.

You don't sign manning unless you Know he's healthy and think he will start and be productive a minimum of three more years.

you don't sign manning unless you plan to put talent around him so that he can win in that timeframe. Doing so requires your first round picks in the next two drafts to be productive players from day one.

You don't sign manning unless you Pretty much throw your west coast offense out the window to cater to his talents.

So now that you have signed manning, explain to me how it would be anything but stupid to trade your draft picks to move up and acquire a qb you don't anticipate starting for Atleast 4 years... A quarterback who would be ideally suited to run the offense you had in 2010 and 2012, but is the antithesis of the quarterback you catered your 2012 offense for?




Now, what you could do is sign manning to an Mcnabb-esque contract on steroids (really big numbers with no guaranteed money beyond this year), and then trade him Before the draft (and after he's proven his health) for extra ammo to get RG3. It would be devious... But brilliant if you could pull it off

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

You don't sign manning unless you Know he's healthy and think he will start and be productive a minimum of three more years.

you don't sign manning unless you plan to put talent around him so that he can win in that timeframe. Doing so requires your first round picks in the next two drafts to be productive players from day one.

You don't sign manning unless you Pretty much throw your west coast offense out the window to cater to his talents.

So now that you have signed manning, explain to me how it would be anything but stupid to trade your draft picks to move up and acquire a qb you don't anticipate starting for Atleast 4 years... A quarterback who would be ideally suited to run the offense you had in 2010 and 2012, but is the antithesis of the quarterback you catered your 2012 offense for?




Now, what you could do is sign manning to an Mcnabb-esque contract on steroids (really big numbers with no guaranteed money beyond this year), and then trade him Before the draft (and after he's proven his health) for extra ammo to get RG3. It would be devious... But brilliant if you could pull it off

Why does everyone keep saying this? No one runs the true west coast offense anymore. Manning will do just fine in the current offense with some small adjustments.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

You don't sign manning unless you Know he's healthy and think he will start and be productive a minimum of three more years.

you don't sign manning unless you plan to put talent around him so that he can win in that timeframe. Doing so requires your first round picks in the next two drafts to be productive players from day one.

You don't sign manning unless you Pretty much throw your west coast offense out the window to cater to his talents.

So now that you have signed manning, explain to me how it would be anything but stupid to trade your draft picks to move up and acquire a qb you don't anticipate starting for Atleast 4 years... A quarterback who would be ideally suited to run the offense you had in 2010 and 2012, but is the antithesis of the quarterback you catered your 2012 offense for?




Now, what you could do is sign manning to an Mcnabb-esque contract on steroids (really big numbers with no guaranteed money beyond this year), and then trade him Before the draft (and after he's proven his health) for extra ammo to get RG3. It would be devious... But brilliant if you could pull it off

Silly me going on hiatus forgot about the assumption that we have to trade up to get him at 2. I was thinking in terms of him being available at 6.

[GTripp0012]

Manning isn't going somewhere that isn't committed to Peyton Manning. Trading up for RG3 would be, by definition, not committing to Peyton Manning.

I'm not even sure Manning would give the a-OK to draft Kirk Cousins in the second round.

The guy who would back up Manning, in all likelihood, would be Rex Grossman.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Manning isn't going somewhere that isn't committed to Peyton Manning. Trading up for RG3 would be, by definition, not committing to Peyton Manning.

I'm not even sure Manning would give the a-OK to draft Kirk Cousins in the second round.

The guy who would back up Manning, in all likelihood, would be Rex Grossman.

Edit: Nevermind.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Here is what a QB who actually played for MS thinks about Peyton to the Skins and particulary Peyton working with MS.

Steve Young thinks Peyton Manning to the Redskins is a fit - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post

Take it from a player who has played for the guy, rather than an analyst.

I think his take on Mike basically wanting a QB who can protect his judgement is spot on and epitimizes what Peyton can do for him.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Here is what a QB who actually played for MS thinks about Peyton to the Skins and particulary Peyton working with MS.

Steve Young thinks Peyton Manning to the Redskins is a fit - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post

Take it from a player who has played for the guy, rather than an analyst.

I think his take on Mike basically wanting a QB who can protect his judgement is spot on and epitimizes what Peyton can do for him.

If not RG3, then definitely Peyton Manning. But will Manning call his own plays? Will Manning clash with Kyle Shanahan? Will Mike Shanahan incorporate the schemes/plays in the west coast offense that Manning called in the huddle and changed at the line of scrimmage in Indy?

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Of course Manning will be Manning where ever he goes, he will be changing things at the line. He reads the Ds and makes changes. That is his game and what he excels at. If you read the article, MS would give the QB multiple plays to run out of a formation or he would allow the QB to make the play call change at the line after the QB has read the defense.

Kyle is the one who really wants PM, so I am sure he would be willing to do whatever it took to make it work.

[MTK]

Even though we knew this day was coming, it's just so strange to imagine the words Peyton Manning... free agent coming true.

[MTK]

Albert Breer says his arm has gotten "progressively better" the past six weeks. Should be no worries about him being ready to go.