Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Was Demarcus Ware breathing down his neck? No. Everyone looks great when there's no pass rush. Oh..and how do you figure he's going to hold up with our shaky o-line? Sorry but I just can't invest in a 36 year old qb who sat out a year cause he had to have multiple neck procedures that sucked the life out of his arm. Too risky. Again, why can't we just go out and get our own guy? Build around him for the next 12-15 years...like all the other winning organizations do.

My point is Montana had the same surgery and took some serious hits and he did fine. They say every year several players have this surgery. I thought several had the same surgery last year and only PM was the one not playing. If there was any situation where the doctors felt his neck surgery put him in a postition to be paralized or break on a serious hit they wouldn't clear him.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

My point is Montana had the same surgery and took some serious hits and he did fine. They say every year several players have this surgery. I thought several had the same surgery last year and only PM was the one not playing. If there was any situation where the doctors felt his neck surgery put him in a postition to be paralized or break on a serious hit they wouldn't clear him.

Montana had a bad back, played two years in KC and was done. He missed games both season cause he couldn't stay on the field. He did get them to the AFC championship.

This is a different situation. This injury is to a nerve/nerves that go into his tricep, which is the major muscle to his throwing arm. Plus we have way too many holes here. Yeah we'll go the FA route but as we know that just doesn't work. See Philly and past Redskins teams. Manning will make us better, but we're still not a SB team w/ him under center.

[whistler]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Montana had a bad back, played two years in KC and was done. He missed games both season cause he couldn't stay on the field. He did get them to the AFC championship.

This is a different situation. This injury is to a nerve/nerves that go into his tricep, which is the major muscle to his throwing arm. Plus we have way too many holes here. Yeah we'll go the FA route but as we know that just doesn't work. See Philly and past Redskins teams. Manning will make us better, but we're still not a SB team w/ him under center.

Montana had a lumbar back fusion not neck.


Why can't skins fans want to cultivate their own superstar? It seems that they always want someone elses reject. Manning is a reject at this point.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by whistler

Montana had a lumbar back fusion not neck.


Why can't skins fans want to cultivate their own superstar? It seems that they always want someone elses reject. Manning is a reject at this point.

There has to be a better way to advocate the Redskins draft a franchise QB that doesn't involve trashing one of the greatest players in NFL history...

[whistler]

Originally Posted by celts32

There has to be a better way to advocate the Redskins draft a franchise QB that doesn't involve trashing one of the greatest players in NFL history...

Not trashing his accomplishments, simply advocating that the skins actually use the draft and college free agents to build a winner. He actually was rejected that is why he isn't in Indy anymore.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by whistler

Not trashing his accomplishments, simply advocating that the skins actually use the draft and college free agents to build a winner. He actually was rejected that is why he isn't in Indy anymore.

I think cap limitations, and a new start, is a long way from rejecting PM. Sometimes situations just don't allow for the most preferred choice to occur.

But that's just semantics

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by whistler

Montana had a lumbar back fusion not neck.


Why can't skins fans want to cultivate their own superstar? It seems that they always want someone elses reject. Manning is a reject at this point.

I agree with your point but I'd hardly call him a reject. A reject is Rex Grossman.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by whistler

Montana had a lumbar back fusion not neck.


Why can't skins fans want to cultivate their own superstar? It seems that they always want someone elses reject. Manning is a reject at this point.

It doesn't matter if he's a reject or not. Being a reject does not mean he cannot play football; just a potential indicator that might not always be right.

And wanting the best is more important than a moral victory in which a QB flops, but hell we tried to "develop them" (see Ramsey and Campbell).

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

It doesn't matter if he's a reject or not. Being a reject does not mean he cannot play football; just a potential indicator that might not always be right.

And wanting the best is more important than a moral victory in which a QB flops, but hell we tried to "develop them" (see Ramsey and Campbell).

that is debatable.

Ramsey had very little backing from Gibbs. Campbell had a different OC every year, and didn't stand a chance when Shanny got here. Not saying either would have been elite QB's, but they never stood a chance.

LOL

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

that is debatable.

Ramsey had very little backing from Gibbs. Campbell had a different OC every year, and didn't stand a chance when Shanny got here. Not saying either would have been elite QB's, but they never stood a chance.

LOL

Ramsey sympathizer!

I think that gets you flogged in these parts.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Montana had a bad back, played two years in KC and was done. He missed games both season cause he couldn't stay on the field. He did get them to the AFC championship.

This is a different situation. This injury is to a nerve/nerves that go into his tricep, which is the major muscle to his throwing arm. Plus we have way too many holes here. Yeah we'll go the FA route but as we know that just doesn't work. See Philly and past Redskins teams. Manning will make us better, but we're still not a SB team w/ him under center.

Ok point taken on Montana. However there are other players who have gotten the same surgery and continued playing. The QB position is one of the most protected positions. And I'll repeat if the doctors thought there was any danger he would not be talked about right now cause it would read PM forced to retire.

I understand the nerve and bis arm issue, also know his doctors have said it could take weeks or months before progress is seen but when it starts it could heal fast ss in most cases and we know his has started or he would most likely not be throwing so well.



I'm confused how PM hinders this team from filling other holes? All this would do is assure us Grossman would not be coming back. Unless you guys want Grossman back? No matter what they do in the draft MS and KS will have a Vet QB on this team and I'd prefer it be PM with all his knowledge vs. the others.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ok point taken on Montana. However there are other players who have gotten the same surgery and continued playing. The QB position is one of the most protected positions. And I'll repeat if the doctors thought there was any danger he would not be talked about right now cause it would read PM forced to retire.

I understand the nerve and bis arm issue, also know his doctors have said it could take weeks or months before progress is seen but when it starts it could heal fast ss in most cases and we know his has started or he would most likely not be throwing so well.



I'm confused how PM hinders this team from filling other holes? All this would do is assure us Grossman would not be coming back. Unless you guys want Grossman back? No matter what they do in the draft MS and KS will have a Vet QB on this team and I'd prefer it be PM with all his knowledge vs. the others.

Lumbar fusion is allot harder to recover from than the neck fusion. Because the neck does not carry the wieght that the lumbar does. Infact lumbar fusions have a much smaller success rate.