Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's usually a handful of posts, not a handful of pages. I mean it is what it is, but it's pretty apparent a lot of people post before reading anything

I agree if it was posted two post ago on the same page it is annoying.

I think we are all a little edge on here right now. This is probably the biggest off season in the Warpath's history.

And as Redskins fans we are bracing for the worst which would be no PM or RGIII and another year of Rex/Beck.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I agree if it was posted two post ago on the same page it is annoying.

I think we are all a little edge on here right now. This is probably the biggest off season in the Warpath's history.

And as Redskins fans we are bracing for the worst which would be no PM or RGIII and another year of Rex/Beck.

Dear lord help us if that is the case. I think a little part of me will die inside if we go into another season with an average retread qb at the helm, like Kyle Orton or somebody.

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by mooby

Dear lord help us if that is the case. I think a little part of me will die inside if we go into another season with an average retread qb at the helm, like Kyle Orton or somebody.

I have felt all along that it's entirely likely that REX is the starting QB week 1, with a drafted QB(not RGIII) sitting behind him for half the season. The percentage is as strong for that to occur as getting Peyton or RGIII and having them start.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

I have felt all along that it's entirely likely that REX is the starting QB week 1, with a drafted QB(not RGIII) sitting behind him for half the season. The percentage is as strong for that to occur as getting Peyton or RGIII and having them start.

You know, I just dont see how Mike Shanahan could do this and be looked at as performing his duties as HC. You know that your QB situation is TERRIBLE, you MUST address it this year. There is no excuse for him if Rex is the QB day one, and I think he is way too smart to play russian roulette like that. We will have a new QB come April.

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

You know, I just dont see how Mike Shanahan could do this and be looked at as performing his duties as HC. You know that your QB situation is TERRIBLE, you MUST address it this year. There is no excuse for him if Rex is the QB day one, and I think he is way too smart to play russian roulette like that. We will have a new QB come April.

I think they would consider that addressing the situation. I dont like it, but i've been disappointed by these guys fairly consistently with their QB decisions.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

I have felt all along that it's entirely likely that REX is the starting QB week 1, with a drafted QB(not RGIII) sitting behind him for half the season. The percentage is as strong for that to occur as getting Peyton or RGIII and having them start.

I have no problem with Rex briefly starting if we know there's a young QB a la RG3 or Tannehill waiting in the wings...not Beck

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I have no problem with Rex briefly starting if we know there's a young QB a la RG3 or Tannehill waiting in the wings...not Beck

Truthfully, I don't want either Grossman or Beck quarterbacking the Redskins. I'm hoping that the Redskins lean against re-signing Grossman and I'm also hoping that Jonathan Crompton outshines Beck in training camp/preseason. They both showed their worthlessness last season. It is time to move on from both of them.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I have no problem with Rex briefly starting if we know there's a young QB a la RG3 or Tannehill waiting in the wings...not Beck

This. Well, semi-this. I'm not a big fan of Orton/Tannehill, but if that was option A and my other option was Rex/Cousins or whomever, I'd take option A.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I have no problem with Rex briefly starting if we know there's a young QB a la RG3 or Tannehill waiting in the wings...not Beck

I personally have no problem with Rex starting the 1st couple games if say RG3 is not ready. However, I think Rex starting the home opener will create a bad vibe in the stadium that we don't really need as we start a new season. The boo birds and chants of RG3 are going to start at the 1st incompletion let alone interception. For that reason it's safer to just start fresh with all new QB's...

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by celts32

I personally have no problem with Rex starting the 1st couple games if say RG3 is not ready. However, I think Rex starting the home opener will create a bad vibe in the stadium that we don't really need as we start a new season. The boo birds and chants of RG3 are going to start at the 1st incompletion let alone interception. For that reason it's safer to just start fresh with all new QB's...

Boooooo. oh yea no your right. On top of that I don't think you can start Rex, change him out for RGIII and if he struggles think of even changing back.

They are better off letting Rex go, (hate to say it) keep Beck for camp, keep Crompton for camp, pick up another Vet (Flynn, Orton), and draft some one like Tannehill, Cousins, Weeden. Then let the QB position play out in preseason. Then I'd cut Beck if we didn't prior and Crompton. Keep the new Vet and Rookie. If it's Orton/Rookie I'd hope Rookie starts and Orton is back up, If it's Flynn/Rookie then Rookie can be back up and develope cause as someone else said your not going to pay Flynn starting money which he will want and make him backup.

I still think RGIII is too expensive with all our needs. I'll take Flynn/Rookie and give MS the last 3 yrs to make the young QB's work out. Only other option I like would be trading back for more picks taking Rookie QB in the 1st, WR in 2nd, and picking up another Rookie QB somewhere and let them battle in preseason. Then play the best of the two. With this option we'd have two young QB's to develope over 3 yrs. If after 3 yrs we still suck MS will be gone anyway.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Boooooo. oh yea no your right. On top of that I don't think you can start Rex, change him out for RGIII and if he struggles think of even changing back.

They are better off letting Rex go, (hate to say it) keep Beck for camp, keep Crompton for camp, pick up another Vet (Flynn, Orton), and draft some one like Tannehill, Cousins, Weeden. Then let the QB position play out in preseason. Then I'd cut Beck if we didn't prior and Crompton. Keep the new Vet and Rookie. If it's Orton/Rookie I'd hope Rookie starts and Orton is back up, If it's Flynn/Rookie then Rookie can be back up and develope cause as someone else said your not going to pay Flynn starting money which he will want and make him backup.

I still think RGIII is too expensive with all our needs. I'll take Flynn/Rookie and give MS the last 3 yrs to make the young QB's work out. Only other option I like would be trading back for more picks taking Rookie QB in the 1st, WR in 2nd, and picking up another Rookie QB somewhere and let them battle in preseason. Then play the best of the two. With this option we'd have two young QB's to develope over 3 yrs. If after 3 yrs we still suck MS will be gone anyway.

Flynn is not an option worth even discussing. The one thing that everyone in the football world agrees on is that the Redskins do not like Flynn.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by celts32

I personally have no problem with Rex starting the 1st couple games if say RG3 is not ready. However, I think Rex starting the home opener will create a bad vibe in the stadium that we don't really need as we start a new season. The boo birds and chants of RG3 are going to start at the 1st incompletion let alone interception. For that reason it's safer to just start fresh with all new QB's...

I see your point, but look at it another way - Rex is the perfect expectation (not game) manager; he will be ready when the season starts whereas a rook will likely not be up to speed mentally, he can pull out a couple of wins if the rest of the team does well, and then he can be the fall guy cause, well, he already is!

[celts32]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I see your point, but look at it another way - Rex is the perfect expectation (not game) manager; he will be ready when the season starts whereas a rook will likely not be up to speed mentally, he can pull out a couple of wins if the rest of the team does well, and then he can be the fall guy cause, well, he already is!

The way he plays costs us wins. And what if the coaching staff thinks RG3 needs 6 or 8 games on the bench? Rex will end up washing another season down the drain. i just think they should aim a little higher then Rex as the stopgap and have him as the fallback plan. But at the end of the day if they have RG3 then i don't care who the heck the backup is...

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by celts32

I personally have no problem with Rex starting the 1st couple games if say RG3 is not ready. However, I think Rex starting the home opener will create a bad vibe in the stadium that we don't really need as we start a new season. The boo birds and chants of RG3 are going to start at the 1st incompletion let alone interception. For that reason it's safer to just start fresh with all new QB's...

You are correct. If Griffin doesn't start day one, things will get ugly quickly.

But I think that Matty is right that Griffin starts day one.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You are correct. If Griffin doesn't start day one, things will get ugly quickly.

But I think that Matty is right that Griffin starts day one.

All this Griffin talk makes me want to just hurry up and get a trade done. All this talk of the Browns and Rams talking is making me nervous, especially since we appear to be out of the Peyton talk.

But as far as the point goes, I agree with Matty. I think RG3 is bright and talented enough that he would be able to start from day one. I don't think he can learn the full playbook by the first game, but he should be able to learn enough to start and play the first game.