Redskins Sign S Brandon Meriweather

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

While I don't like Meriweather personally, you aren't going to tell me that resigning LaRon would be any cheaper, and at least he will be on the field for a chance to compete. How is that a down grade? LaRon refuses surgery, and I am quite confident, that because of that he will have another injury plagued season this year. So for those two reasons alone you argument is invalid.

No, I would not try to tell you LaRon would be cheaper.

The big question is: what is he competing with? Who are the Redskins bringing in to make Meriweather earn his way onto the field?

To react to this signing before we have those important details is difficult.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

No, I would not try to tell you LaRon would be cheaper.

The big question is: what is he competing with? Who are the Redskins bringing in to make Meriweather earn his way onto the field?

To react to this signing before we have those important details is difficult.

And yet you have already claimed it is a downgrade. He will be competing with whoever we draft this year. I have no doubt in my mind that we will spend at least 1 if not 2 picks on safety in the draft this year.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

And yet you have already claimed it is a downgrade. He will be competing with whoever we draft this year. I have no doubt in my mind that we will spend at least 1 if not 2 picks on safety in the draft this year.

On Landry, sure is. We already know that.

I hope they're going harder on the free agent market than simply waiting around for the draft, but I suppose that's better than no plan at all.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

On Landry, sure is. We already know that.

I hope they're going harder on the free agent market than simply waiting around for the draft, but I suppose that's better than no plan at all.

But you just said this, "But until they consistently target a higher grade of player either in talent or character in free agency, I don't understand how you can say this."

How can they target a higher grade of player if no such player is there in FA? You can't fix everything in one year, especially if the players to do it are not there. How can you fault the team for not going hard enough to win, when there isn't anything there to win with in the first place? Your points seem contradictory to me IMO.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

But you just said this, "But until they consistently target a higher grade of player either in talent or character in free agency, I don't understand how you can say this."

How can they target a higher grade of player if no such player is there in FA? You can't fix everything in one year, especially if the players to do it are not there. How can you fault the team for not going hard enough to win, when there isn't anything there to win with in the first place? Your points seem contradictory to me IMO.

Maybe I'm guilty of not thinking this one out (so let me take responsibility for any inconsistencies first), but if they were willing to be creative (expand and look at all DBs), I do think they could have significantly upgraded a secondary that has been a weakness since 2009.

It just seems like they concluded that "the problems were our safeties, not our corners" which 1) ignores all the problems at corner, and 2) resulted in their first move being a tear down at the safety level before maybe they considered your point: that they were responsible for putting 2 of the best 5 safeties on the market.

And so after that, maybe Brandon Meriweather looks like a solution instead of another problem.

My impression is that the market isn't all that weak at safety, but assuming that bringing Atogwe and Landry back are non-starters, then we're best off finding value in the bargain bin.

I think the Redskins sometimes mischaracterize the problem (we haven't been able to cover the pass since before we got here), opting instead to find scapegoats (Landry and Atogwe, in this case). And I think we could all agree that given that premise, finding good solutions is much more difficult.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Maybe I'm guilty of not thinking this one out (so let me take responsibility for any inconsistencies first), but if they were willing to be creative (expand and look at all DBs), I do think they could have significantly upgraded a secondary that has been a weakness since 2009.

It just seems like they concluded that "the problems were our safeties, not our corners" which 1) ignores all the problems at corner, and 2) resulted in their first move being a tear down at the safety level before maybe they considered your point: that they were responsible for putting 2 of the best 5 safeties on the market.

And so after that, maybe Brandon Meriweather looks like a solution instead of another problem.

My impression is that the market isn't all that weak at safety, but assuming that bringing Atogwe and Landry back are non-starters, then we're best off finding value in the bargain bin.

I think the Redskins sometimes mischaracterize the problem (we haven't been able to cover the pass since before we got here), opting instead to find scapegoats (Landry and Atogwe, in this case). And I think we could all agree that given that premise, finding good solutions is much more difficult.

Then name for me all of the FA talent that is unsigned that makes the group not weak.

I don't see how Landry and Atogwe are scapgoats. They didn't perform well. This is a performance league. You don't play well, someone else will take your job. Is it the Redskins organization's fault that those two players did not play well/could not stay on the field?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Then name for me all of the FA talent that is unsigned that makes the group not weak.

I don't see how Landry and Atogwe are scapgoats. They didn't perform well. This is a performance league. You don't play well, someone else will take your job. Is it the Redskins organization's fault that those two players did not play well/could not stay on the field?

After Atogwe, Landry, then Leonhard, Abdullah (MIN), Mike Adams (CLE), Chris Hope, Zbikowski, Chris Harris (of Detroit, Chicago).

Mostly league average guys. Nothing special. Although I thought we should have acted quicker on guys like Lowery and Pool, who would have been potential upgrades on Atogwe.

Scapegoat doesn't mean they performed well. It means that: we're keeping other parts who did not perform well, but we're getting rid of you because we determined you're the big problem.