Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 30gut

These aren't some unknown scouts telling Kiper and McShay these are actual NFL decision makers.

There are others but when it comes to credibility does it get any better then Gil Brandt?




How about the guy that actually coached and won a superbowl w/ Peyton Manning? (btw did you know that Dungy was a college QB?)


Tony Dungy would take Robert Griffin III over Andrew Luck - The Early Lead - The Washington Post

Well technically Brandt didn't say Griffin over Luck, he just alluded to it, and to make such a declaration due to a workout, especially the day before Lucks workout would undermine his credibility.

Dungy, I give you Dungy, that certainly counts as a respectable opinion but for the sake of this debate I'm going to play my "Dungy is a defensive guy" card.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Well technically Brandt didn't say Griffin over Luck, he just alluded to it, and to make such a declaration due to a workout, especially the day before Lucks workout would undermine his credibility.

Dungy, I give you Dungy, that certainly counts as a respectable opinion but for the sake of this debate I'm going to play my "Dungy is a defensive guy" card.

My point was never that Griffin should be taken over Luck that was the point you were arguing against.
My argument is that its a legitimate question.

And taking a pot shot at Gil Brandt's credibility? Tisk, tisk.
The man has forgotten more about football then most scouts/GMs out there he's one of the more universally respected people in scouting.

Re: Dungy being a defensive coach
I think were above being argumentative?
But, Dungy having actually played college QB himself and coaching Peyton Manning and being a former DC that actually games plan against these QBs has to count more in his favor then against it.

[SFREDSKIN]

I've watched Luck the last 3 years and yes, he's as good as advertised and getting better. RGIII had a great year this year before that he was good. Bottom line Luck will be a great pro as will RGIII, Luck has more experience in a pro style which puts him ahead of Griffin. Griffin is a better athlete by not much, is very smart but lacks the experience. Both will be great and I would be very, very happy with either. People need to relax and be happy we are in the position to draft either one of these great prospects.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I've watched Luck the last 3 years and yes, he's as good as advertised and getting better. RGIII had a great year this year before that he was good. Bottom line Luck will be a great pro as will RGIII, Luck has more experience in a pro style which puts him ahead of Griffin. Griffin is a better athlete by not much, is very smart but lacks the experience. Both will be great and I would be very, very happy with either. People need to relax and be happy we are in the position to draft either one of these great prospects.

Although I have my preference for Robert Griffin III, I'm with you. I wouldn't mind drafting Andrew Luck either. I saw both of these young men play last year and they both were the best in the nation playing the quarterback position. Jim Irsay has a decision to make. If he opts to take RG3 then I'll be disappointed, but I'll also be very elated for the Redskins to land the young quarterback out of Stanford.

[ethat001]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Although I have my preference for Robert Griffin III, I'm with you. I wouldn't mind drafting Andrew Luck either. I saw both of these young men play last year and they both were the best in the nation playing the quarterback position. Jim Irsay has a decision to make. If he opts to take RG3 then I'll be disappointed, but I'll also be very elated for the Redskins to land the young quarterback out of Stanford.

Seriously. Why is this even a discussion? If by chance the Colts somehow magically decide to take RG3, we should be ECSTATIC. Most of us have been DYING to get Luck for the past 2 years, and now he's our second option and a let-down? We should feel comfortable with either in our system, and rest assured we have landed a top caliber prospect at QB.

Seems that ppl have fallen in love with the idea of RG3, partly because RG3's personality seems more magnetic. He's such a marketable prospect that would light up the big stage of Washington DC with his socks alone.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 30gut

My point was never that Griffin should be taken over Luck that was the point you were arguing against.
My argument is that its a legitimate question.

And taking a pot shot at Gil Brandt's credibility? Tisk, tisk.
The man has forgotten more about football then most scouts/GMs out there he's one of the more universally respected people in scouting.

Re: Dungy being a defensive coach
I think were above being argumentative?
But, Dungy having actually played college QB himself and coaching Peyton Manning and being a former DC that actually games plan against these QBs has to count more in his favor then against it.

I didn't take a shot at Brandt's credibility, I basically said if he had outright declared RG3 the number 1 QB prospect after a workout which took place the day before Luck's it would have undermined his credibility. But he didn't do that which leaves his credibility in tact.

As for Dungy, you got me, stupid defensive guy card.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

As for Dungy, you got me, stupid defensive guy card.

That Dungy doesn't know anything about QBs!