Was McNabb misused in Minnesota also?

[GTripp0012]

I think the thing that probably hurts McNabb's position the most is that Kyle can be as egotistical and unwilling to adjust as McNabb thinks he is, and yet, his scheme would still create enough splash plays for a guy like RG3 to have more success than a player like McNabb. Just because Griffin is a better fit.

I'm very skeptical that the Redskins finally have it right all of a sudden, or that they have even found the problem, but I'm a lot more sure that Griffin isn't going to have five seasons with a completion percentage below 60% to start his career like McNabb did. Mike and Kyle aren't going to need to re-create the Andy Reid Eagles to make this work. Their current pass-first, play-action based offense should give ample opportunity for RG3 to succeed.

And if it doesn't, I think the Shanahans are going to take the fall before Griffin. At least, I hope to a higher power that the Shanahan's don't get to pick ANOTHER quarterback if this one doesn't take us where we need to go.

[CrustyRedskin]

Mike Wilbon is the Al Sharpton of sports.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think the thing that probably hurts McNabb's position the most is that Kyle can be as egotistical and unwilling to adjust as McNabb thinks he is, and yet, his scheme would still create enough splash plays for a guy like RG3 to have more success than a player like McNabb. Just because Griffin is a better fit.

I'm very skeptical that the Redskins finally have it right all of a sudden, or that they have even found the problem, but I'm a lot more sure that Griffin isn't going to have five seasons with a completion percentage below 60% to start his career like McNabb did. Mike and Kyle aren't going to need to re-create the Andy Reid Eagles to make this work. Their current pass-first, play-action based offense should give ample opportunity for RG3 to succeed.

And if it doesn't, I think the Shanahans are going to take the fall before Griffin. At least, I hope to a higher power that the Shanahan's don't get to pick ANOTHER quarterback if this one doesn't take us where we need to go.

So maybe this is the wrong thread for this but how will you quantify success or that the Shanahans have 'finally gotten it right'? What are your benchmarks or milestones you are looking for to determine success or failure?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So maybe this is the wrong thread for this but how will you quantify success or that the Shanahans have 'finally gotten it right'? What are your benchmarks or milestones you are looking for to determine success or failure?

When we start to compete with and beat NFL teams who are in year to year contention (like we did with the Giants last season), and when we start to crush the bottom 6-8 teams in any given year on the field. When we're competing with playoff teams in meaningful statistical categories. And finally, when we're making personnel moves that suggest we're a big market organization who knows how to use it's resources to separate from teams that don't (or shouldn't) have the means to compete with us.

If we can get a couple of those things right, we'll be on the right track. We already failed on the personnel front this year, but every other one of those criteria is still in play in 2012.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

When we start to compete with and beat NFL teams who are in year to year contention (like we did with the Giants last season), and when we start to crush the bottom 6-8 teams in any given year on the field. When we're competing with playoff teams in meaningful statistical categories. And finally, when we're making personnel moves that suggest we're a big market organization who knows how to use it's resources to separate from teams that don't (or shouldn't) have the means to compete with us.

If we can get a couple of those things right, we'll be on the right track. We already failed on the personnel front this year, but every other one of those criteria is still in play in 2012.

How can we say that when we aren't even to training camp yet GTripp?


There is time to improve on what we have. The salary cap hit is slowing down the team. We have the draft. Salary restructures could free up some space if needed as well as cuts to resign LF and there would still be some cash left to push up right to the cap with a few vet FAs or maybe some other second and third tier guys. AND if we really hit on RGIII or Luck and they live up to everyone's expectations and hopes. Wouldn't adding a franchise QB to our current team = a win for this years off season acquisitions?

I believe that we need time to evaluate the roster once the season starts again. This may end up being a great offseason for adding talent to our team. OR it could be a huge failure that leads to a new HC...... you just never know. It is just to early to state that.

Other than that I agree with your answer.

BTW I read somewhere on some web page that RGIII declined a private work out with the Colts.