All About the Offensive Line

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So we will depend on a rookie QB to improve our Oline? What a grand strategy

A quick release and a guy that can scramble away from pressure can go a long way.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

A quick release and a guy that can scramble away from pressure can go a long way.

What? How can any quarterback do better than what Grossman showed us last season? He's like the Ferrarri of quarterbacking.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

A quick release and a guy that can scramble away from pressure can go a long way.

True, I just think the smart play is getting the guy as much help as upfront so its not another thing he has to worry about while making the transition.

While I agree its not as important as getting the secondary together or even resigning Fletcher at this point, i still think its a primary concern. Going into camp with injury concerns with Kory L and JB (again) with a new QB and a rookie at that I think is dangerous. Im seriously thinking JB could be done.

[GTripp0012]

There's a lot the Redskins can do to improve their offensive line, but there's nothing they have to do in order to save their season. This isn't quite the Red Alert we're dealing with in the secondary.

If they want to save their financial resources and start the same five guys they went with in 2011, they'd probably be okay. They don't give postseason awards for building the most "blah" offensive line that periodically will not actively hurt the offensive effort, but you can't just spend your problems away.

The best the Redskins can do at right tackle in the draft is a 50/50 shot at drafting a long term solution at RT. And that pick (in either the 3rd or 4th round) would come with a significant opportunity cost of a potential starter if they drafted BPA.

Marcus McNeill or Vernon Carey are probably the best they can do at this point, but like Jammal Brown, you're making an unlikely gamble on good health.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

There's a lot the Redskins can do to improve their offensive line, but there's nothing they have to do in order to save their season. This isn't quite the Red Alert we're dealing with in the secondary.

I would put the OL concerns up there with secondary.
Rookie QBs usually hold the ball longer, miss more hot reads and sight adjusts and are generally more dependent on quality pass protection for success then veteran QBs that know the scheme.
Unless they're counting on continuity based improvements I think the OL we had last year isn't good enough to support the kind of offensive success I think they're looking for.

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

.... This isn't quite the Red Alert we're dealing with in the secondary.

Wow... no offense, but this is like a broken record. I'm not happy with the secondary either, and I was on record saying that we should find a way to keep Carlos on the team instead of letting him go. Losing Landry sucks, but he has basically been gone for 1.5 years already. Still, we were 12th in pass defense last year. These posts make it sound like we were 30th in the league or worse.

We need a quality depth player at CB and another at Guard/Center. If we get the QB position right, our problems at CB can be overcome. The Giants stand out as a prime example. They were worse in yards/game and completion percentage and still managed to do okay.

[imaskin4life]

When I assess our team's needs, I think we are actually weaker in secondary right now than OL. However our OL needs are more URGENT due to the fact that we are bringing in a rookie QB. Our priority should be OL.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by imaskin4life

When I assess our team's needs, I think we are actually weaker in secondary right now than OL. However our OL needs are more URGENT due to the fact that we are bringing in a rookie QB. Our priority should be OL.

i concur

[imaskin4life]

Originally Posted by imaskin4life

When I assess our team's needs, I think we are actually weaker in secondary right now than OL. However our OL needs are more URGENT due to the fact that we are bringing in a rookie QB. Our priority should be OL.

IMO the only reason to prioritize OL is because we are bringing in RG3. I would not be thinking this way if we weren't bringing in a rookie qb. For instance in 2010 when we also had a need at both OL and S, I personally would have selected S Eric Berry over T Trent Williams at #4 and focused on T later. In fact I still cringe when I think about us passing on Berry to select Williams at 4.

Now that we are bringing in a franchise rookie qb, that pick in 2010 should begin to make more sense to me -- I am of course assuming that he can stay off the trees

[los panda]

i really think we're alright as far as starters go, i think the rt spot will be fine between brown/smith. we just need to get deep at every spot, positions battles to raise the proverbial bar

[GTripp0012]

The biggest OL issue IMO isn't Brown. Brown is weak, sure, but what can you really do about that: pay a right tackle left tackle money?

The biggest OL issue comes if you lose either Trent Williams or Kory Lichtenstieger (or even Montgomery) to injury. Right now, if that happens, you're hoping for either some sort of unnatural step forward for Willie Smith or Maurice Hurt, or you just get RG3 hit on any passing play beyond a three step drop. So if you're going to sort out that issue, I'd start there in bolstering the left side with depth, and accepting that the right side is a known weakness, and will be all year.

[Paintrain]

I'm in the camp of our line being OK, not great but an improvement over the days of Dockery, Rabach, Mike Williams and Heyer.. I'm interested to see how Brown will be with a full offseason of supervised and regulated rehab/training as well as the development of Mo Hurt and Wilie Smith. They are key to our depth on the left side. They both got game experience and while they didn't stand out, they also didn't completely embarrass themselves either.

What do you guys think of Zebrie Sanders, the tackle from FSU in the 3rd as a backup and/or potential replacement for Brown on the right side?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I'm in the camp of our line being OK, not great but an improvement over the days of Dockery, Rabach, Mike Williams and Heyer.. I'm interested to see how Brown will be with a full offseason of supervised and regulated rehab/training as well as the development of Mo Hurt and Wilie Smith. They are key to our depth on the left side. They both got game experience and while they didn't stand out, they also didn't completely embarrass themselves either.

What do you guys think of Zebrie Sanders, the tackle from FSU in the 3rd as a backup and/or potential replacement for Brown on the right side?

I think he's in the discussion, but better options.

[budw38]

I think you have to hope you see guys in rds 3-5 that you like and fit the system . I would like to draft 2 before rd 6 . As GTripp noted , without an improved secondary , we might struggle to win more than 8 games ( we did surrender 30 pts 3 of last 4 ) . It is possible that Trent , Kory and J Brown are all better this year , and some of the young guys are better than we think . I have to guess with both Davis and CC and a better QB should make us less predictable and more explosive .

[freddyg12]

At this point, we can only hope that depth and/or a late round gem is acquired in the draft & Willie Smith reaches his potential & takes the RT job at some point. Any FAs brought in will likely be competing for a backup spot. Good o linemen are often found in the mid rounds & this draft has decent o line.