Info on MP3 players

[That Guy]

apple has pretty good price control, as is, you go below this price, you'll never be able to get our product again.

i'd be aware that refurbs might have old batteries that drain fast.

that said, the ipod is a safe buy. I just use my phone now (it holds as much as the sd card i throw in it, and i have better EQ etc options), but if you want an ipod, there's nothing wrong with them.