UDFA Thread

[simbosargos75]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You mean Michigan State, this is the dude that caught the hail mary against Wisconsin

Thanks for bringing that up again.

@$#$

[SmootSmack]

Also, unless something changed, this dude and someone else whose name I can't recall are getting minicamp tryouts. Technically they haven't been signed

[SBXVII]

Here's one of the articles.

Spartans wide receiver Keith Nichol joins teammate Kirk Cousins on the Redskins | May

[SBXVII]

Here's the article I read, pretty good read. I think he will be the guy I root for this season... long shot with good attitude and high IQ.

Michigan State's Keith Nichol gets shot with Washington Redskins, hopes 'football IQ' can help him earn NFL roster spot | MLive.com

[SBXVII]

In case some can't open the page for whatever reason....

“I think it'll be a real good thing for us,” Nichol said of he and Cousins both joining the Redskins. “We're both high IQ football guys. It wasn't the deciding factor that Kirk was there, but that's a bonus.”

He settled on Washington after multiple teams approached him following the draft.

The strong and athletic 6-foot-2, 220-pound Nichol said he felt the Redskins offered him the best opportunity to prove he can be a multi-dimensional threat on the football field at the professional level – as a wide receiver, a special teams contributor, a third-string quarterback or even on defense as a safety.

“I'm going to be very confident,” Nichol said of getting a shot at the NFL. “I won't go in there cocky. I'll be humble and I'll try to show my football IQ and that I can play a lot of positions. I may not have a (defined) position, but if you're a guy who can produce at a lot of spots, you're going to be in the league just as long.”

Nichol, once a prolific high school quarterback, began his college career at Oklahoma, buried on the depth chart behind eventual Heisman Trophy winner and No. 1 overall NFL pick Sam Bradford. He transferred to Michigan State, where he lost an extremely tight battle with Cousins to be the starting quarterback.

He made the transition to catching passes in his final two seasons.

He had 50 receptions for 625 yards and four touchdowns as a Spartan, including the dramatic Hail Mary catch-and-stretch touchdown to defeat Wisconsin at the end of regulation this past season.

He also finished with 826 passing yards and nine touchdowns, accumulating most of that in his sophomore season.

Nichol said he expects to make an NFL roster as a wide receiver.

“I see myself as a guy who can get on the field at wide receiver. I think I've come a long way in two years at that position,” he said. “I've got the size for the NFL, I run very good routes and I'm fast in and out of my breaks.

“I'll play anywhere they want me, though. I feel I would be a third quarterback if teams need that, I play on special teams, and I think I could move over and play safety if I had a chance there,” he added.

Nichol just wants a chance to prove he belongs in the NFL.

“I'm really looking forward to it,” he said. “I know that it's going to be tough in the NFL, but I just want a chance to get out there and prove myself at that level. I want to make that 53-man roster on game days.”

[Ruhskins]

Full UDFA list from Rich Tandler:

Redskins announce undrafted player signings - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins
The Redksins have announced that they have signed the following undrafted free agents:

Antwon Bailey, RB, Syracuse
Kelvin Bolden, WR, Southern Miss
Lennon Creer, RB, La. Tech
Grant Garner, C, OK St.
Darius Hanks, WR, Alabama
Donnell Holt, LB, Cal
Monte Lewis, LB, Jacksonville State
Lance Lewis, WR, East Carolina
Vaughn Meatoga, NT, Hawaii
Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
Michael Shaw, RB, Michigan

[WaldSkins]

When does it look Chase Winnfield will be ready to get on the field

[REDSKINS4ever]

I've been hearing a lot of about this kid Chase Minnifield. His knee injury must have been serious if he went undrafted. Hopefully his mends from the injury and make the other 31 teams regret that they passed on him. He has the ability to play cornerback in the NFL and when healthy he's a first round talent. If this kid can apply himself and make plays in preseason then he might even unseat Josh Wilson opposite D. Hall.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I've been hearing a lot of about this kid Chase Minnifield. His knee injury must have been serious if he went undrafted. Hopefully his mends from the injury and make the other 31 teams regret that they passed on him. He has the ability to play cornerback in the NFL and when healthy he's a first round talent. If this kid can apply himself and make plays in preseason then he might even unseat Josh Wilson opposite D. Hall.

From what I read he graded as a 2nd or 3rd rounder prior to the injury, but still, to snag him as a UDFA will be a steal if he comes back 100% or close to it.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by GMScud

From what I read he graded as a 2nd or 3rd rounder prior to the injury, but still, to snag him as a UDFA will be a steal if he comes back 100% or close to it.

I can tell you that 80% of the players drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds from previous drafts are no longer in the league, which is also a real possibility for Minnifield. If Minnifield was a 2-3 round talent then he would have gone there, or atleast would have gotten drafted. He didn't. Theres a reason 32 teams passed him up in the draft, and thought that 253 players were better than him.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I can tell you that 80% of the players drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds from previous drafts are no longer in the league, which is also a real possibility for Minnifield. If Minnifield was a 2-3 round talent then he would have gone there, or atleast would have gotten drafted. He didn't. Theres a reason 32 teams passed him up in the draft, and thought that 253 players were better than him.

Yeah notice I used the phrase "prior to the injury."

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I can tell you that 80% of the players drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds from previous drafts are no longer in the league, which is also a real possibility for Minnifield. If Minnifield was a 2-3 round talent then he would have gone there, or atleast would have gotten drafted. He didn't. Theres a reason 32 teams passed him up in the draft, and thought that 253 players were better than him.

You can tell us that but you would be blatantly, utterly, incontrovertibly wrong. Unless you're talking about 2nd and 3rd rounders drafted in before 2002.

2011: 31 of 31 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
30 of 32 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2010: 29 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
23 of 33 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2009: 29 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
27 of 35 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2008: 26 of 31 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
27 of 35 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2007: 27 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
15 of 34 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2006: 26 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
17 of 33 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

NFL Draft History and AFL Drafts - Pro-Football-Reference.com

I stopped b/c, even from drafts six years ago, two thirds of the players drafted in the 2nd and 3rd were still in the league at the end of last year. Of the 2nd and 3rd rounders drafted four years ago, more than 80% were still in the league at the end of 2011.

If Minnifield was a 2nd or 3rd round talent knocked out of the draft due to injury concerns (1) it wouldn't be the first time that had happened only to have the player come back and be a solid contributor; and (2) if we get 2nd or 3rd round production from Minnifield we have a pretty good shot at many serviciable years.

Sorry, the inanity of your 80% assertion was just to blatant to let pass.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

You can tell us that but you would be blatantly, utterly, incontrovertibly wrong. Unless you're talking about 2nd and 3rd rounders drafted in before 2002.

2011: 31 of 31 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
30 of 32 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2010: 29 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
23 of 33 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2009: 29 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
27 of 35 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2008: 26 of 31 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
27 of 35 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2007: 27 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
15 of 34 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2006: 26 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
17 of 33 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

NFL Draft History and AFL Drafts - Pro-Football-Reference.com

I stopped b/c, even from drafts six years ago, two thirds of the players drafted in the 2nd and 3rd were still in the league at the end of last year. Of the 2nd and 3rd rounders drafted four years ago, more than 80% were still in the league at the end of 2011.

If Minnifield was a 2nd or 3rd round talent knocked out of the draft due to injury concerns (1) it wouldn't be the first time that had happened only to have the player come back and be a solid contributor; and (2) if we get 2nd or 3rd round production from Minnifield we have a pretty good shot at many serviciable years.

Sorry, the inanity of your 80% assertion was just to blatant to let pass.

Damn ya got me! I was just guesstimating, wow I'm surprised by those numbers, more so from 2008 and backward.

As for those asking about where I heard rumors of Minnifield. Profootballweekly grades out players who are rising and falling. They said that multiple scouts were trying "to like minnifield, because of his NFL bloodlines, but flat out just don't like him--" One scout they talked to said he wouldn't touch him until the "7th atleast"

On twitter Matt Miller of nfldraftscout.com had Minnifield out of the draft, and said he was "one of the most overrated players in the draft.

Someone else I read (I want to say it was a foxsports or scout.com guy not sure though) said something along the lines of "I have never had a guy rated so highly one year and then so low the next." (I'm not 100% sure if this article or post came out before or after his surgery.)


So yeah I heard a reasonable amount to form that opinion.

I'm glad we didn't draft him, and like you all say I'm glad we signed him for nothing and its a win win for us. But I'm just saying theres a reason guys go undrafted, injury or not, because if a team is high on a player and that player gets injured they'll get him (Cardinals with Obrien Schofield with his torn ACL; Eagles with Jack/Jake Iwgegawnu the CB from Wisconsin who tore his ACL; Lions with Broyles and his torn ACL). And quiet simply this guy was rated as a 2-4th rounder like the guys above were. Difference is that those guys went in those rounds still, and he didn't go in any round. We need CB's and I hope he's great to help out our team, but all I'm saying is don't expect me to put "Minnifield" down on my final 53 man roster anytime soon.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by joeredskin

you can tell us that but you would be blatantly, utterly, incontrovertibly wrong. Unless you're talking about 2nd and 3rd rounders drafted in before 2002.

2011: 31 of 31 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
30 of 32 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2010: 29 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
23 of 33 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2009: 29 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
27 of 35 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2008: 26 of 31 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
27 of 35 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2007: 27 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
15 of 34 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

2006: 26 of 32 2nd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.
17 of 33 3rd rounders were on the roster at the end of 2011.

nfl draft history and afl drafts - pro-football-reference.com

i stopped b/c, even from drafts six years ago, two thirds of the players drafted in the 2nd and 3rd were still in the league at the end of last year. Of the 2nd and 3rd rounders drafted four years ago, more than 80% were still in the league at the end of 2011.

If minnifield was a 2nd or 3rd round talent knocked out of the draft due to injury concerns (1) it wouldn't be the first time that had happened only to have the player come back and be a solid contributor; and (2) if we get 2nd or 3rd round production from minnifield we have a pretty good shot at many serviciable years.

Sorry, the inanity of your 80% assertion was just to blatant to let pass.

pwned

[MTK]

Injury red flags knocked him out of the draft. It happens.

If healthy he was definitely draftable.